Neptune on my mind

Mapping Your Travels and relocation — if we are interpreting correctly — considers the three most difficult planets (in order) as Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto. (After that, the three ‘middleweights’ from hardest to easiest are Mars, Uranus, and Jupiter; and the ‘favorites’ in ascending order of favorability are Venus, Mercury, Sun, and Moon.)

I’ve covered Neptune in prior posts (December 28 of last year and January 9 of this year). You can refer to these posts — specifically the December 28 one — for more information about what Neptune is and does.

I want to work with Neptune and I want to use the parts of Neptune that are favorable and believe they are favorable. Particularly as I am contemplating picking up and moving to Hawaii; so the issues here are having Neptune in my 1st house by birth, the 2nd house where I’ve been in Colorado since 2016, and the 3rd house in Hawaii.

I found a great go-to book that I have been reading a lot over the last couple of weeks. It’s by Steven Forrest — The Book of Neptune. I’ve used it before in another post about Steven Forrest — a post on September 11. I’m going to ignore that post right now as I write, although you can read back to it and decide for yourself if I’m quoting redundant information.

There are so many things — astrologically — to consider when considering a move. But it’s okay to ponder only one and dwell on it for a while. Forrest has his own opinions on what importance relocation presents in the grand scheme of what astrology tells us we are supposed to do on this earth. I admire his skills and accomplishments greatly, but I might have a disagreement on whether location can dicatate something about whether a new location is supposed to change our life purpose.

And reading his book about Neptune in my view proves it. Let me show how.

I’ve read his chapters 20, 21, and 22 (Neptune in the first house, second, and third houses). Here is what he said as a summary to begin his Neptune in the 1st house:

Seemingly selfish or egocentric actions facilitate the evolution of consciousness. Leadership. Defense of boundaries. Growth-triggering experience claimed assertively.

You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

Leaking energy: A deer-in-the-headlights state of paralysis or psychic shock. Feeling trapped in a “role.” Watching one’s life in a daze, as if it were a movie.

His book is copyrighted 2016, and I got it just after it came out but a couple of months before I picked up and left Pittsburgh. I was contemplating whether his first house Neptune would apply to me more than a second house Neptune would be in Colorado (at the time, I thought Boulder, but it was pointed out to me not long after I arrived that it was known as “The People’s Republic of Boulder,” and there’s a reason for that).

Looking at his 2nd house Neptune, it goes as follows:

Honoring your attainments on the Path — and avoiding the underestimation of your actual evolutionary state. Choosing appropriate and effective levels of inner practice. Being “willing to pay for it.” Benefits deriving from relationship with sacred objects: statues, stones, relics. Proving one’s self spiritually.

Bet the house.

Leaking energy: Wasting time on practices that are no longer useful given your actual evolutionary condition. Dithering self-doubt. Complications stemming from financial confusion.

It makes sense that 1st house Neptune would have something to do with leadership and 2nd house Neptune would have something to do with material status. And it’s true that I’ve only quoted the beginning summaries for the first two houses, and although they are excellent studies, they only capture what he’s saying so far. There’s not enough space here to quote the entire chapters and I can say he’s full of insights.

If I’m going to bottom-line anything here it’s that I think my priorities shifted from 1st house Neptune to 2nd house Neptune within about 3 years of getting here. It seemed entirely natural that I would do this.

I was somewhat politically involved the first couple of years, particularly as 4 months after I got here I became involved in the Hillary Clinton campaign, and the congressional district I lived in was slightly Democratic leaning but still had a Republican congressman (Mike Coffman) that we were trying to defeat. (He was very good at winning elections — very adaptable. He didn’t lose in 2016 but he did lose in the 2018 Democratic wave. They split their tickets in 2016 — Hillary won by about 9 points but the Republican congressman ALSO won by about 9 points).

I spent a good part of 2017 rallying in any way I could to save the Affordable Care Act. The state also had a Republican senator who was finally defeated in 2020, and in 2017 in particular I went to his town hall meeting in August 2017 (and reported on it, particularly his demagoguing of the health care issue) and marched into his office no fewer than six times that year to protest against his support of repealing the ACA, and some other ancillary issues.

There were opportunities to lead. I was involved in the local Indivisible group — the FB page has slighly fewer than 3000 people — and may have been at least partly responsible for ending a politician’s career. A long story involving homeless people’s rights, my being a delegate for governor and state representative — a story that mostly played out in the spring of 2018.

More importantly, I tried leadership through my writing. The pen is mightier than the sword, as the old saying goes. It was on the Indivisible Denver CD1 group. It was me presenting discourse on political matters — all so important as this played out between early 2018 and the 2020 pandemic, while Trump was in office. I did my best to offer insights on political matters, get people to think in new ways, offer some sort of moral authority on things. I’d post nearly every day, sometimes more than once per day. I was awarded the designation of “conversation starter”.

When my vibrational astrology program started, I met with one of the students, Elizabeth Dietz, in Denver. (It was an online program; she lived in Long Island, but was selling a condo that she owned in Denver). The program had stared only weeks earlier and we were being presented some of the newest information, with the astrological math. I have a strong 17 vibration in my chart, which makes me interested in the stories of others and can generally offer empathy, things that are hopefully serving me well in my practice.

She, on the other hand, has a strong 19 vibration. 19 vibration still engages with the stories of others, but more in a director role. So directing the stories of others, which can be very useful as a consultant or as a therapist who uses astrology in their practice (or an astrologer who offers therapy, etc.)

We were both so new at this, but she gave me an amazing reading. She basically concluded that, because of Mercury’s influnce, the reason I was put on this earth was to offer leadership through communication. Or, at least, some kind of service to others — but the communication part of it was key. And it made sense that my commitment to write for Indivisible Denver CD1 would be a part of that.

I rarely write for them anymore — I believe my last post was on Elijah McClain, the Black massage therapist murdered by Aurora, CO (a major suburban city right next to Denver) police more than a year ago (Generally, I post an article with commentary as much of my writing — in this case I mentioned that I was pretty sure that he was on the autism spectrum, indicating that Aurora police were not only racist and in many cases brutal, but that they were completely ignorant about, and uninterested in, how to interact with an autistic person.) McClain’s murder went viral around the middle of last year, and I added to the discussion.

My posts were almost always approved, but around the time the pandemic hit, my posts were being removed because I was posting New York Times’ and other papers’ Op-Eds, because I thought that they added to the discussion. They were posted up until about March 2020, but no longer. Most of my political posts now are on a site of people who practice witchcraft, specifically to stop Trump. (There are more than twice as many people in this group as there are in Indivisible Denver CD1!)

But even in the months leading up to the pandemic I was doubting whether the discourse-as-leadership was what I was supposed to be doing. It wasn’t a fully conscious wondering, but it’s relevant to the question of, do you buy that your life themes are going to change and that what was influencing me in Steven Forrest’s Neptune-in-houses write-up is no longer 1st house Neptune but instead 2nd house?

I think it is:

Honoring your attainments on the Path — and avoiding the underestimation of your actual evolutionary state. Choosing appropriate and effective levels of inner practice. Being “willing to pay for it.” Benefits deriving from relationship with sacred objects: statues, stones, relics. Proving one’s self spiritually.

Bet the house.

Before I go into “Bet the house,” I want to say that for me, my giving has less to do with the public now and more to do with personal, one-to-one interactions — helping the person in front of me. It became clear to me not long after starting the blog that it was about that.

I am completely winging it in terms of my astrology practice — putting all my eggs into it. There truly is no safety net here. I am betting the house that the practice will work out. The 2nd house is, among other things, the house of money. Other astrological texts (Isabel Hickey, as I recall, and there are others) will say that 2nd house Neptune is a problematic placement — that it completely dissolves our finances. Forrest is a little bit more positive about it. “Bet the house” is new information.

And betting the house isn’t easy for me. Much of it has to do with family scripts — from my late parents to my sister and her husband, who live very conventional lives. The idea of ‘winging it’ is anathema to them. They don’t approve. I am truly on my own. Honestly, I’d rather not talk to them until and unless I’m successful.

In the meantime, I look at Hawaii, which has a lot of positive things for me if you believe the midpoints, in particular. And Hawaii is far enough away that Neptune ends up in my 3rd house. And here’s what Forrest says.

The five senses are attuning to the Otherworld. Visions. Free-associative conversation with the Divine; “Channeling.” Learning. Reading omens, symbols, and synchronicities. Clairvoyance.

I didn’t know I knew that.

Leaking energy: Worry. Scattered speech and thoughts. Wool-gathering. Dithering. Not believing your own eyes.

The most attractive thing to me here is “I didn’t know I knew that.” In the context of things like clairvoyance.

He writes:

So, maybe you have Neptune in the 3rd house, and you encounter someoen who has gotten wind of the fact that you’re interested in metaphysics. She bumps into you in a shopping mall, starts a conversation, and quickly progresses to asking you, “Do you believe that if you visualize yourself being in love with the perfect person that you’ll attract that kind of love into your life?” Out of the blue you are confronted with that question. And it’s in the framework of a conversation — feel that third house context? You open your mouth and words come tumbling out. And they are exactly the right words. You have the experience of saying something that you didn’t know you knew.

It’s interesting to contemplate how this environment might affect me as an astrologer — in other words, my abilities. Additionally, it takes me out of the material realm to a large degree. And it’s just interesting and fulfilling — knowing things that you didn’t know you knew. I would think, regardless of whatever else the move would bring, that I’d really enjoy being in that situation.

I visited Hawaii twice (2015 & 2019) mostly as a tourist — and didn’t get to implant myself into a community that might be doing practices where I’d get to shine in that kind of way. There were things (I’m primarily referring to midpoints, but not exclusively) that I noticed immediately that showed up on the astrology, and there were things that I hadn’t been there for long enough to notice.

I suspect it might take a Mars return (usually about 1 3/4 years time) before I’d be fully immersed in whatever culture in Hawaii that I’d be a part of. (Actually, it was at least a few months, and probably several months, after the Mars return of the move here before it felt like “home.” For those of you who are keeping score.

By David Muir

David Muir recieved his PAC as a 2020 graduate of the Avalon School in Vibrational Astrology. He has been a practicing astrologer having studied astrology since 1997. He specializes in relocation astrology, particularly in terms of how both one's character and external influences change in a new location. He has interests in compatibility, and just generally “getting the necessary information out there for you,” which can entail personology as well as different interpretations in general. David writes a 2x/weekly blog in both relocation astrology and other astrological topics of interest, on

David received a BA from Carlow University in 2011 with concentrations in philosophy, writing, and political science. He does a 2x/month radio show and has lived in Denver, CO since 2016.

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