Generational planets, yet again

Please refer to my posts on September 29 and especially, May 12 of last year for more of this talk about generational planets. Especially since those pages have the interpretations of Neptune and Pluto in each relevant sign.  But I’ll review.

Because Neptune and Pluto are such slow-moving planets, Neptune spends approximately 14 years in each sign, while Pluto, being highly elliptical, spends between 11 and 31 years in each sign.  Pluto, actually, recently had its shortest periods in the signs Libra (1971/72-1983) and Scorpio (1983-1995).  The periods for Sagittarius and Capricorn begin the trend of longer generations (per Pluto, anyway).

I wanted to use this post to delve into how I interact with the different generations.  The youngest of the Pluto in Cancer generation were born in 1939, so they’re at least 82 years old. Both of my parents were Pluto in Cancer, as were my father’s two siblings, one of whom may still be alive. My mother’s brother and his wife was also Pluto in Cancer, but my mother’s sister was born eight years later and ended up with Pluto in Leo.

There are not many Pluto in Cancer people left. But my memories growing up were pretty remarkable.

My mother was an alcoholic until 1991, and it peaked when I was a teenager. She was often emotionally violent, which may have had in part to do with repression and self-involvement, but not entirely. (She was not abusive — that takes intent to hurt — and although she really was into herself, she wasn’t interested in hurting anyone in the family, or anyone — any hurt she caused at any time was probably incidental.)

The fights between my dad and mom in the 1980s were legendary in how destructive they were. In fact, as the ’80s progressed, they were embarrassing because they involved my mother’s nearly publicly violent behavior. Her father was also an alcoholic, and she said he didn’t love his family. My mother admitted to me that she didn’t have an understanding of the concept of ‘respect.’

I see some pretty obvious characteristics through the Round Art, including ‘destructive’, ‘insatiable,’ ‘dominating,’ ‘melodramatic,’ and ’emotions squandered.’

Moving on to Pluto in Leo. Covering 1937/1939 to 1956/1958 (Pluto went backwards a sign due to retrograde in two consecutive years), these are the people who I call the Boomers even though the era is about 7 years off. We ALL have Pluto in Leo people in our life.

These people have done amazing things. Most of them don’t have to contend with Neptune in Scorpio, which didn’t start until 1956, so they are more virile than the younger generations. Ask yourself who seems to have more energy — Elizabeth Warren (born 1949), or Kamala Harris (born 1964). This isn’t a knock on Harris — I’m pleased that she’s our VP, and here’s a cool article about her. Pluto in Virgo, which Harris is part of, has its own really great strengths that are misunderstood, especially by Boomers.

This time I am going to post the Round Art interpretation for Pluto in Leo — it’s important:
dynamic emotions, authority, despotism, prominence, will to power, rule by force, extraordinary achievements; aggressive, tactless, brutal, powerful, boisterous.

“Boomers” (Pluto in Leo) tend not to understand why generations younger than they can’t do the things they can. Of course college was cheap for those born in the Pluto in Leo generation — all you had to do was achieve your educational goals, and you didn’t have to worry about cost, or debt, for the most part. Pluto in Leo tends to disregard their advantage there.

Leaving that aside, of course, what I posted from the Round Art above; the negative stuff is what it is, but the extraordinary achievements cannot be overlooked. And they tend to brag about what they have done and denigrate those younger for not doing it like them.

Somebody once wrote: “When Boomers get together in a group, they tend to bully and self-justify.” I am quite confident that this person writing wasn’t thinking of those born between 1959 (or 1957, depending) and 1964. Barack Obama (born 1961) doesn’t act like this.

We all have to navigate with Pluto in Leo people. The youngest of them is 63, but they still retain enormous power. They’re not my preference, but I’m learning (god willing) to be more diplomatic with them because that’s the only thing that seems to be successful. A full-frontal argument or attack will backfire, badly.

I’m in the Pluto in Virgo generation — actually, I’m at the tail end of it; Pluto moves into Libra 2-3 years after I was born. So peers who are mostly older than me have this placement. This is the forgotten “Generation X,” although the years are off. In the last 28 years Pluto in Leo has held the presidency for 20 and Pluto in Virgo, only 8. Besides Kamala Harris, this applies to Amy Klobuchar, Barack and Michelle Obama, and Cory Booker.

We have a little something called “accumulated detail” along with our incisive nature. The accumulated detail is important in particular because when we try to solve problems, we not only leave no stone unturned, we not only put every detail into it, we remember every detail — and it’s natural. It just is. When Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar introduce legislation, it’s like that. We are the consummate problem solvers. We don’t achieve extraordinary things with our power, which may be why we’re forgotten in popular culture.

Pluto in Virgo can be impossible, too; which is why I’ve started to appreciate the younger generations, especially as they come of age. The oldest Pluto in Libra is 50; the youngest is 37. I could see them even in my late 20s, because there is something extraordinary about them.

There’s a lot of overlap between Libra Pluto and Sagittarius Neptune — in fact, it’s almost entirely overlap. So it’s not just the Pluto that matters — Neptune in Sagittarius can be prophetically inspired. That’s important. But Pluto in Libra seek harmony and cooperation. For the most part. That’s also important, and until they came of age, we never had that in our lifetimes. Think about that.

Pluto in Libra can be ruthless and disruptive, but other characteristics from the Round Art include ‘extraordinary power of assertion,’ and, on a more event-level, ‘fame.’ I have a story about that that is too complex to be written here; obviously not everyone gets to be famous, let alone an entire generation, and this is the generation that Andy Warhol must have been referring to when he said, “In the future, everyone will be famous for fifteen minutes.” (He died in 1986; maybe he was thinking of the children.)

Extraordinary power of assertion, and also ‘manifestation of genius,’ is really cool though. Yeah, Pluto in Virgo is ‘brilliant,’ but we’ve been around longer, so we’re old news.

Pluto in Scorpio covers 1983/1984-1995. They are between the ages of 25 and 38. This includes my older niece, but not my younger niece. They are starting to come of age and many are already quite accomplished, conjuring up my jealousy. I haven’t tried to really analyze them up to this point, and this is the last generation this 51-year old is going to cover just because I don’t have too many experiences with Pluto in Sagittarius, not enough to make firm impressions. (I find Pluto in Libra to be the Millenials I and Pluto in Scorpio to be the Millenials II. Pluto in Sagittarius is Generation Z, shall we say.)

I especially experienced the Pluto in Scorpio people when I volunteered at a radio station in Pittsburgh, doing radio shows each week. I started this in 2005, so the people that were graduating were born in 1983ish, and I finished in 2015, where the people first attending were born in 1997 or even 1998; so, at least I have a little experience with Pluto in Sagittarius — the singer-songwriter who I know and who goes by “Metacara” (you can also look here, I especially like her song ‘The Map’) and sounds like Leslie Feist, though this really does get into some spiritual pioneering.

But I digress.

Pluto rules Scorpio. And my experiences at the radio station (WPTS-fm, Pittsburgh) with so many Pluto in Scorpio young adults were interesting. They were, of course, college students, and so they were a bit more intelligent than the average. They didn’t seem to much into the ‘homicidal’ nature (not literally, anyway; I can’t imagine an entire generation being homicidal).

‘Record achievements and endurance’ probably hit that generation after they graduated or otherwise exited the university. But some are insanely accomplished. Inspired? To a degree, but in this case it was a more mediocre radio station than that at the station connected to the university I attended through 1993.

These people are going to be around for a long time, so it’s necessary to understand them to a greater degree than I’m really relating here. I feel like the elder statesman who is starting to lose touch with those below the age of 38, though I may have more of an affinity with the Pluto in Sagittarius generation. Hopefully this article inspires you to look at the younger generations and give an honest telling.

By David Muir

David Muir recieved his PAC as a 2020 graduate of the Avalon School in Vibrational Astrology. He has been a practicing astrologer having studied astrology since 1997. He specializes in relocation astrology, particularly in terms of how both one's character and external influences change in a new location. He has interests in compatibility, and just generally “getting the necessary information out there for you,” which can entail personology as well as different interpretations in general. David writes a 2x/weekly blog in both relocation astrology and other astrological topics of interest, on

David received a BA from Carlow University in 2011 with concentrations in philosophy, writing, and political science. He does a 2x/month radio show and has lived in Denver, CO since 2016.

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