Repost: Jupiter lines

This post will be released Monday morning, but I’m writing on Saturday morning. I’m going in for open-heart surgery this afternoon. (Things have been moving very fast.) This is an urgent case and so I’m very grateful I’m here because they really know what they’re doing. And, I had open heart surgery 19 years ago so I know what to expect, although this time it’ll be more invasive.

I’m going through the two malefics and the two benefics, per Maren Altman, and her take on astrocartography. She reminds us:

  • In a day chart, Mars lines are malefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Saturn lines are malefic lines.
  • In a day chart, Jupiter lines are benefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Venus lines are benefic lines.

She does say that she’s only thinking about the ascending/descending lines.  In my case I am sitting about five degrees, or 300 miles, west of my Jupiter ascending line. The influence is weak and you’d be okay to call it a weak conjunction.

So I am reposting my article from October 5, 2020 about Jupiter lines, for added insight.


Please refer to my April 11 post about Jupiter’s influence in each of the 12 houses. When I cover a planet, I do so two ways — first, I cover each of the 12 houses; second, I cover the planetary lines. I don’t usually do both in the same post, as there’s a lot of verbiage to unpack (the article would easily be well over 2000 words).

Today I’ll cover the different Jupiter lines — the ascending, the IC, the descendant, and the MC (midheaven). To review:

  • The ascending line is the location on the earth where the planet is rising. (As a corollary, the ascendant is the point on the horizon — northeast, southeast, or anywhere in between — where the sun would be rising at the time of birth). A planetary ascending line is the planet on the cusp of the first house.
  • The descending line is the locaiton on the earth where the planet is setting. (The descendant is the point on the horizon — northwest, southwest, or anywhere in between — where the Sun would be setting at the time of birth). A planetary descending line is the planet on the cusp of the 7th house.
  • The MC lines are where a planet would be at its highest point of the day in the sky, or essentially on the prime meridiem. They will be directly south above the Tropic of Cancer, directly north below the Tropic of Capricorn, or overhead (the possibility for being overhead only exists between the tropics). A planetary midheaven line is the planet on the cusp of the 10th house.
  • The IC lines are where a planet would be at its lowest point of the day underneath the earth. A planetary IC line is the planet on the cusp of the 4th house.

Ascending and descending lines are usually diagonal, especially if they’re near the Gemini-Cancer cusp or the Sagittarius-Capricorn cusp. Midheaven and IC lines are always vertical.

Jupiter is considered by many astrologers to be the ‘great benefic’ — the planet of good luck, fortune, expansion. Other astrologers are more neutral and many astrologers would also acknowledge that Jupiter can also correspond with excess — for example, someone with Jupiter in their first house would have more of a propensity to gain weight.

I’ll be covering what influences you should expect if you are on or very close to one of the Jupiter lines. Different astrologers have different interpretations as to what constitutes a strong influence — I would tend to conclude that being within 20 or 30 miles (less than half a degree) of a line is very strong, but there’s still influence up to 100 or more miles (about a degree and a half). But there are astrologers who consider up to 300 miles (5 degrees), or even more. Needless to say, the orbs are everything.

I typically use interpretations from Time Passages, one of the better astrological software packages, as well as Dan Furst in his book Finding Your Best Places, a 2015 book from

Here’s Jupiter on the Ascendant.

The Jupiter ascending line is the red line stuck next to the Mercury descending line, a yellow line. This client has Jupiter opposite Mercury in their chart with a 12 minute orb.

In this client’s map, we can see the Jupiter ascending line travel southwest through eastern Europe, coming near Warsaw, Poland, through Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, near Sarajevo, Yugoslavia, and eastern Italy, through the Mediterranean, and near Benghazi, Libya, and south through central Africa.

The Time Passages interpretation goes as follows:
With Jupiter on the Ascendant, no matter how crowded this place may be, you will experience a great sense of expansion here. In this location, you are likely to have abundant energy and good luck with the material side of life. This place may also bring out your love of the outdoors, along with the freedom and independence to just be yourself. You could be inspired to take the good energy you feel here and throw a party, create an adventure or throw yourself whole heartedly into the quest for higher knowledge. You experience yourself as a confident, optimistic and generous person while visiting or residing in this part of the world. You may also enjoy fulfilling your appetites, but you benefit when you take the time to rest and reflect as well. Although your expanded sense of self in this location is wonderful, you may want to temper it with a healthy sense of groundedness and limitation. In other words, faith in yourself is entirely positive so long as you don’t get lost in ego.

Dan Furst has it as follows:
A Jupiter on the Ascendant line is even more likely than the MC line to make us so ebullient and confident that we exert an irresistable charismatic appeal to others. We may embody the hope for a better life than can lead others to invest us with the spiritual power of a God-touched faith healer leading a train of enthusiastic devotees. We can gain such professional success and prosperity, and display such largesse, that we become like Lorenzo the Magnificent looking for some Botticellis to patronize, so the risks of attracting sycophants, and getting carried away with the huge importance others see in us, can bring some hard lessons in humility.

Here’s Jupiter on the Midheaven.

The Jupiter Midheaven line is a solid line (as MC lines are) stuck to the Mercury IC line, a dashed yellow line. This client has Jupiter opposite Mercury in their chart with a 12 minute orb.

This client has the Jupiter Midheaven line cutting southward through central Mongolia and central China, not really near any population centers although there are some cities in southern China it goes close to; then, through southeast Asia, including Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia, before going through the Indian Ocean, hundreds of miles west of western Australia.

Per Time Passages:
With Jupiter on the Midheaven, this is a great place for you to succeed in your endeavors on the public stage. In this locale, business success will follow you wherever you put your energies. Your social goals are expansive and the results of your vision are likely to be returned to you on the same grand scale. In this locale also, you might meet up with influential people who will help you on your way. The sky is literally the limit for you here; in fact, the lack of perceived limits might be the only drawback. In this part of the world you must beware of even too much optimism, of the tendency to have such belief in yourself that you take what could turn out to be foolish risks. If you keep a dose of healthy pessimism handy when you visit or reside in this place, you can indeed work wonders here and set your world on fire.

Dan Furst says:
A Jupiter on the MC line points up to the professional and spiritual sphere, this is where we are apt to rise in business and social status, to achieve public office and a position of leadership in medicine, music and religion, even to attract devoted and zealous fans and followers. This line’s values are conventionally religious rather than spiritual, and we are more likely here to become a pillar of the establishment and an exemplar of bbourgeois morality than to rock anyone’s boat, so the corrupting temptations of money and power, and the pursuit of pleasure, can come to outweigh the altruistic motives that first led us into the public arena.

This client’s Jupiter Descending line is not really a good picture, to wit:

The Jupiter descending line is the red line stuck next to the Mercury ascending line, a bright yellow line. This client has Jupiter opposite Mercury in their chart with a 12 minute orb.

Suffice it to say it runs south from Russia through the Bering Strait, and mostly southward through the Pacific Ocean to Antarctica withough hitting any land, although it goes perhaps within 1000 miles west of the Hawaiian islands, although the Mars Ascending line is closer.

Per Time Passages:
Jupiter on the Descendant makes this place one of the best in the world for you to meet others! You may find you connect easily with people, young and old, rich and poor, foreign and domestic. Relationships in this location tend to expand your horizons while offering you generous amounts of good will, intelligence and cheer. The folks you meet here tend make a deep impression on you that will last long after you leave. They may perhaps launch you into world travels, introduce you to new schools of thought, or join you in a spiritual quest. In its most challenging aspect you may find yourself in relationship with people here who take up a lot of space, who live life to excess, or who act in arrogant or dogmatic ways. At its best, you experience a lot of joy, ease and celebration with your partners here, aligned in a shared quest for knowledge, inspiration and adventure.

Per Dan Furst:
A Jupiter on the Descendant line means professional, financial, and social connections, so that here we may excel in business, sales and the practice of law or medicine, and gain high prestige in professional associations. Our chances of “marrying well” are high under this line, and we may attract help from powerful allies who seem miraculously to appear whenever needed. As Jim Lewis notes, “this is one of the most fortunate areas possible, one in which forces beyond your control seem determined that you are to have an easy time of it.” Jupiter’s special status as the “happy, lucky planet” may be more evident here than anywhere else, so that even when we blunder, we land on our feet not just like a cat, but a very sleek, smooth, and well-heeled cat.

Jupiter on the IC/nadir:

The Jupiter IC line is toward the right of the image. It is a red dashed line (as IC lines are) partially obscured by the Mercury midheaven line, a bright yellow line. This client has Jupiter opposite Mercury in their chart with a 12 minute orb.

You can see the Jupiter IC line going, from north to south, through Ontario, Western Pennsylvania, central Virginia and North Carolina, near Miami and through Cuba, a part of Central America and Ecuador.

Per Time Passsages:
With Jupiter at the Nadir, when in this location you will be especially tuned in regarding issues of home and family, and your core process. This applies at the physical as well as the figurative level, and you might do very well here with real estate investment or discover the joys of home decorating. You will likely feel a spiritual connection with family and tribe while in this place. People that you meet here are helpful aids in becoming better acquainted with the internal dynamics of your family and also in getting to know yourself at a deep level in ways that you had perhaps never previously explored. Your home is likely to become a source of inspiration, with many visitors and lively discussion, or perhaps a treasure trove of wisdom in your library. When in domicile in this locale, as well as being expansive you are perhaps more than a little restless, so that you could leave your home as much as you reside there, or bring the world back with you when you return. In any case, you will find abundant joy here in your abode.

Dan Furst has it this way:
Jupiter on the Nadir is the most prosperous line in the map, and marks the place where we are most likely to gain a life that is solidly and richly rooted in material wealth and substantial, even ostantatious, possessions. We are apt to retire in status and comfort here, to enjoy a fine home and, as landlords, to gain from building and managing homes for others. We are apt here to put down roots, start a family and continue established patriotic and religious traditions, or start new traditions of our own. We may become noted for our generosity as donors to charity and patrons of the arts, sharing our bounty not only with those closest to us, but with those whom we assist through funding and education to create a better life for ourselves.

And that’s it. Not everyone has the opportunity to live near one of these lines, and, noting our restrictions (such as, most people are not comfortable leaving their country), we might only have the opportunity to leave near one of our Jupiter lines. I live about 300 miles or 5 1/2 degrees from my Jupiter ascending line, so I have a weak influence; you may or may not wish to prioritize a Jupiter line if you have a more favorable Venus, Sun, or Mercury line that works well for you. We do the best we can with what we have.


Repost: Venus Lines

I have been admitted to the hospital and they figured out that I have a blood infection. I’ll be here in the hospital until all the bacteria are out of my blood, per the blood cultures. Then I will be self-administering antibiotics for a while longer.

I’m going through the two malefics and the two benefics, per Maren Altman, and her take on astrocartography. She reminds us:

  • In a day chart, Mars lines are malefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Saturn lines are malefic lines.
  • In a day chart, Jupiter lines are benefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Venus lines are benefic lines.

She does say that she’s only thinking about the ascending/descending lines. However, my Venus IC line, which is not that, goes right in between Kauai and Oahu (a bit closer to Kauai), so that’s why I’ve been making plans to move to Hawaii, and specifically, Oahu.

So I am reposting my article from July 7, 2020 about Venus lines for some thematic consistency. This will say different things than Maren Altman has to say.


Venus is a benefic planet — some astrologers think it is is the most benefic — and I’ll be focusing on both the planetary lines and the house placements over the next couple of weeks. (We’ve covered Sun, Moon, and Mercury planetary lines, as well as Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn house placements, in earlier posts).

First, the planetary lines. Let’s review what an Astro Map looks like. This is the map of someone I did a relocation reading for about a year ago.

An Astro Map of the entire earth

You can see both Ascending and Descending lines running diagonally from North to South and back again. This person’s chart almost has the Bowl shape — planets are distributed among 7 houses and 192 degrees, with nothing on the other side. Descending lines are slightly fainter than Ascending lines, and the vertical Midheaven and Nadir lines are solid and dashed lines, respectively.

The Venus symbol is a little hard to make out, but it’s the only set of planetary lines in the color green. Zooming in we see the Venus line:

Venus Ascending line in green

You will notice that the Venus Ascending line is closer to vertical than any other line on the map. That’s because Venus is at 6 degrees Virgo, which is pretty close to the Libra-Virgo cusp, where, if the planet was a star, would give us pretty close to daylight; Venus spends 12 hours above and below the horizon if it happens to be on the Virgo-Libra cusp (or the Pisces-Aries cusp, for that matter).

You can see the Venus ascending line comes very close to both Montreal and New York City, before passing south through the Dominican Republic, then Venezuela, western Brazil, Bolivia, and Argentina. We are using Time Passages to generate this map and the interpretation for the Venus Ascending line is as follows:

With Venus on the Ascendant, this place puts you in touch with the things in life that bring you pleasure and joy. A sense of wealth could accompany your footsteps while visiting this locale or you could experience a sharpened sense of financial acumen. Your artist self could easily become inspired here. You might also be drawn to the aesthetics of this particular culture and environment. You might desire to collect things, particularly beautiful things, which somehow come easily to you in this place. This location also has a tendency to inspire sensuality in you, and your desire to connect with others. You could find yourself falling into infatuations with people you encounter. You might benefit from bundling some humility and a sense of appreciation into your suitcase. It could be important that you develop a sustaining quality to your passions while you are here, and learn to pace yourself in the pursuit of your pleasures.

Dan Furst, who I like to draw from (his book is “Finding Your Best Places: Using Astrocartography to Navigate Your Life”) has it as follows:

A Venus line pointing east to the Asc is more likely to favor individual artistic achievements than shared success, but it surely can’t hurt that we will appear more beautiful under this line.

Moving on to the Venus in the Midheaven, the map mostly goes through Eastern Europe, including the Balkans, south through Central Africa:

The Venus MC line is a solid vertical line, corresponding, in each location, to the highest point the sun will reach that day.

Time Passages has the interpretation as follows:

With Venus on the Midheaven, this place brings aesthetics and partnership with others to the forefront. Linking up with people that you meet or bring to this area will form a large portion of your success here. You may feel a sense of destiny or fate at play when you are in these parts, especially when it comes to expressing your artistry, and that the public accepts, recognizes and even encourages you in your pursuits. This place can also become your very own pleasure-seeker’s paradise, being ideal for investing in your financial future and for acquiring valuable possessions. If your Venus is challenged, you could let your ambitions run away with you, or find you get easily caught up in status symbols. However, with a little luck and a positive focus, you may find that grace and beauty become your implements for success in this locale, and that cultivating a sense of pleasure pays off both literally and figuratively.

Dan Furst has Venus Midheaven line a little differently:

While all four of the Venus lines are good for money, the two best love lines are the ones pointing up to the MC, and west to the Descendant. As the vertical Venus on the MC line carries the nuance of a spiritually nourishing union, it happens often that people find, or have already begun, happy marriages or other intimate relationships with partners who were born under this line, or whom they encounter there.

Looking at the Venus on the Descendant line (the Descendant, being the cusp of the 7th house, is all about partnerships), the map looks like:

The Venus Descending line, which is all about relationships.

You can see the line moving southward through Siberia, eastern China (where there are a LOT of really big cities), and southeast Asia including Indonesia, missing Australia to the south. Time Passages interprets it as follows:

With Venus on the Descendent, relationship issues predominate for you in this place. You may find that here, you feel strangely incomplete unless and until you have formed a deep bond with a significant other. You could find yourself in these parts motivated to learn the art of relationship, mastering your ability to consider other’s needs as important as your own. You might form connections in this part of the world that focus on pleasure and riches of either the aesthetic or financial kind. At its most challenging, you could also attract others in this place who force you into lessons in love, or who over-express Venusian qualities, appearing hedonistically pleasure seeking or extremely materialistic. As you learn to more consciously express your own sense of beauty and the wealth within you, you could find yourself in partnerships here where you easily manifest the finer things in life and pleasurably share in their enjoyment.

Dan Furst simply says:

The Venus-Dsc line is not called the Marriage Line for nothing.

The most fascinating of the Venus lines is the Venus IC line, or Nadir (not really the Nadir, it is really just the lowest point the sun will reach underneath the earth. Many astrologers use the terms interchangeably.

The Venus IC line goes directly through Oahu!

Time Passages has the interpretation as follows:

With Venus at the Nadir, you will find this place to be the embodiment of rest, enjoyment and creativity. You may find that when visiting in this locale you can take a step back from the world and relax into your privacy. Making a home for yourself comes easily here. You could find this to be an ideal place for an artist’s retreat or for raising children or retiring. Your connections with family and friends become more important, and may take precedence over work or partnership concerns. You enjoy touch, and touching beautiful things. If your Venus is challenged, you may find that you have to watch your tendency to get lost in the comforts. At its best, however you take great joy in home, homeland and family when in these parts and begin to master the high art of self-care. Whether you find yourself planting a garden, pulling out the art supplies or wandering through the nearest countryside, you will enjoy a life in the body as well as in the mind.

Dan Furst gives us the goods, though:

The Venus line going down to the Nadir may be the best and most dangerous one, at least for those who are engaged in spiritual practice. Here life is so easy, materially and emotionally — we may be supported by another, and not have to earn a living — that we lack nothing except a soul life, and we may lose all sense of striving toward spiritual goals. That’s why I call this the Gina Lollobrigida line, for the high-end, low-talent starlet who made a life of being supported by generous men. Yes, enjoy this line if you’ve had years of exasperating struggle. But beware of getting stuck there.

The Venus lines do not make all of a Venus interpretation. Most people in the world would have a difficult time moving near a line, mostly because of material restrictions. Venus is also important in whatever house the client happens to be living in. Having a first house Venus versus a second house Venus, etc. makes a huge difference. We’ll cover that (like we’ve covered Mercury, Jupiter, and Saturn), using different interpretive tools, in a future post.


Repost: Saturn lines

This will be another repost. This is basically my 7th day of being not well. My fever comes and goes and has been as high as 101.8. This is something chronic and the doctor I saw via telemedicine yesterday afternoon said that this was serious and I definitely need to be seen. My friend suggests that it might be an abscess, somewhere in my body (other than headaches, I don’t feel any pain).

I’m going through the two malefics and the two benefics, per Maren Altman, and her take on astrocartography. She reminds us:

  • In a day chart, Mars lines are malefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Saturn lines are malefic lines.
  • In a day chart, Jupiter lines are benefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Venus lines are benefic lines.

As for me, because my Saturn descending line goes diagonally through Kansas City, meaning that as the crow flies, I’m about 550 miles from my Saturn descending line. I was trained by David Cochrane to use small orbs, but I’m starting to accept larger distances as legitimate. 550, though, is pushing it. There are some astrologers who will go there, though. My chart is a night chart.

Here’s the article I posted, dating to October 20, 2020. These are mostly interpretations and have nothing to do with what Maren Altman has to say. It’s just another take for greater understanding.


Following up on the Jupiter lines, Saturn in some ways is Jupiter’s opposite. (Refer to my post about Jupiter lines on October 5.) So we’re going to be really serious today. I’ll repost the information about what each of the lines means:

  • The ascending line is the location on the earth where the planet is rising. (As a corollary, the ascendant is the point on the horizon — northeast, southeast, or anywhere in between — where the sun would be rising at the time of birth). A planetary ascending line is the planet on the cusp of the first house.
  • The descending line is the locaiton on the earth where the planet is setting. (The descendant is the point on the horizon — northwest, southwest, or anywhere in between — where the Sun would be setting at the time of birth). A planetary descending line is the planet on the cusp of the 7th house.
  • The MC lines are where a planet would be at its highest point of the day in the sky, or essentially on the prime meridiem. They will be directly south above the Tropic of Cancer, directly north below the Tropic of Capricorn, or overhead (the possibility for being overhead only exists between the tropics). A planetary midheaven line is the planet on the cusp of the 10th house.
  • The IC lines are where a planet would be at its lowest point of the day underneath the earth. A planetary IC line is the planet on the cusp of the 4th house.

Ascending and descending lines are usually diagonal, especially if they’re near the Gemini-Cancer cusp or the Sagittarius-Capricorn cusp. Midheaven and IC lines are always vertical.

Saturn rules both Capricorn & Aquarius (thus in detriment in Cancer & Leo) and is exalted in Libra (thus in fall in Aries). This, of course, is irrelevant to the study of what happens when you are on or very near a Saturn line.

It should also be said that David Cochrane’s Sirius astrological software includes much, much more than just the four angles. If a planet aspects the Ascendant or Midheaven in any way (noviles, septiles, and quintiles are fair game on the really detailed maps) then that shows up on the map.

I could spend an entire year’s worth of posts discussing various aspects to angles of various planets, but I’m not going to do that. It should be said that he’s developed Treasure Maps (as part of that program) in order to consolidate that information into specific categories — Love & Romance, Friendship & Family, Vocation & Career, Excitement & Instability, and six other categories. Actually, looking at these Treasure Maps might be a good idea for the next post.

To define Saturn, and since most of you reading have some rudimentary knowledge of what it means, I thought it would be interesting how the lack of Saturn manifests with the expression of other planets.

This is from Simon Benjamin’s “Moon in Capricorn: Redeming Saturn in Astrology” e-book.


For just a moment, let’s pretend Saturn does not exist. Happy? In this section, I go through each planet and show you what would happen if other, so-called benign, planets ruled the world without Saturn.

Note: I am aware that Sun, Moon, and Pluto are not planets, but that’s how they are referred to in astrology.

  • Sun: Sun without Saturn is a big ball of fire that burns everything in sight. Without Saturn’s steely boundaries, the Sun is like an unconstrained forest fire. Everyone has fun for the sake of having fun. Nobody does any work and so civilization eventually crumbles.
  • Moon: Moon without Saturn is a world where nobody leaves the house; people sit on the couch and consume junk foods all day long. Outside, everyone bumps into each other like they are drunk or half-asleep, constantly mumbling passive-aggressive remarks. There is no civility or order.
  • Mercury: Mercury without Saturn is random numbers and words without any shape or form. Have you ever opened a text document and saw nothing but a display of illegible characters and symbols, and gasped? That’s Mercury without Saturn: incoherent communication and an overload of useless information.
  • Venus: Venus without Saturn is a nightmare version of open relationships, where there’s a complete absence of any rules of interaction. No family bonds. No marriage contracts. No respect for elders. Everyone is extremely manipulative; people treat each other as they wish: savagery in relationships.
  • Mars: Mars without Saturn is instant gratification galore. Everyone only concerns themselves with satisfying their immediate impulses, without any regard for future consequences. Basically, it’s a jungle out there and you are lucky if you survive a single day.
  • Jupiter: Jupiter without Saturn is a world where every whimsical idea and belief carries peopel into fanatacism and impracticality. Without structures, individuals are “sacrificed” for nothing but mere visions of an idealistic future.
  • Uranus: Uranus without Saturn is complete, constant, and utter chaos. This is a world where rebellion is for the sake of rebellion. There is nothing steady or reliable. Earthquakes occur every two seconds.
  • Neptune: Neptune without Saturn is a living art project. Nothing is as it seems. Magic, tricks, and illusions abound. Although eveyrthing seems beautiful, one gets an eerie feeling that something sinister lurks behind all that glamour.
  • Pluto: Pluto without Saturn is life on constant survival mode. Everyone is paranoid and can’t seem to relax, ever. Everyone is more real than you’d like, so you are always scared that the person in front of you may bite your arm at any moment.

Moving on to the Astro Map, I’ll post the one for Time Passages (an astrological software program) for someone I know. (Birth data is not revealed). I’ll include the Time Passages interpretations for these lines. I also will cite the entries for Dan Furst’s book “Finding Your Best Places: Using Astrocartography to Navigate Your Life.”

An Astro Map for the whole Earth for a specific person. We’ll zoom in shortly.

Looking for the Saturn on the Ascending line, we zero in here:

Astro Map for the Saturn Ascending line, which is the solid line in brown.

You can see the Saturn ascending line flowing from Russia through Mongolia, through the Gobi Desert in China and then near some major cities in southeast China, then near Southeast Asia, the Phillipines, Indonesia, then then crossing down Australia rather near Melbourne and touching Tasmania.

Here’s the Time Passages interpretation.

With Saturn on the Ascendant in this location, you are likely to take on additional responsibilities when visiting or relocating here. This potentially causes hardship but also engenders significant achievement and long-term reward as a result of hard work. You may learn more about the art of self-reliance during your time here. You could find that you come to wear a new-found sense of responsibility like a well-worn uniform. Your travels to this part of the world bring out a perhaps uncharacteristic sense of reserve in you and a strong, grounded sense of your limits. This might include a graceful capacity of saying “no.” While outer limits can help with your focus, inner limits that might reveal themselves could resolve into subconscious fears that you slowly work through in a step-by-step fashion. You do want to watch that you don’t take yourself too seriously. On the other hand, it behooves you to take advantage of the discipline you can access here and use it to create tangible results for yourself. The lessons of the time that you spend here may only make themselves manifest over the long haul.

Dan Furst writes that

“Saturn lines are above all work lines. They represent serious minded disciplined effort in pursuit of important goals, often under adverse conditions that call forth our grittiest determination. While these lines are never easy, especially in contrast to the blue Venus and Jupiter lines, they may be exactly what is needed for people who have never learned to apply themselves, and they often mark good university locations for people who are about to outgrow the breeze and fluff of high school, and begin to focus on the practical business of preparing for a career, often under the guidance of an older Saturnian mentor.”

Here’s his interpretation of one’s Saturn Ascending line:

Under a Saturn on the Ascendant line, we can project Saturn’s sober, heavy qualities into our outer environments, acquring at best a dignity and gravitas that gain us a reputation as serious characters who can be relied upon to be impeccable with our word, and deliver what we’ve promised. If we take ourselves too seriously, we can become figures of ridicule .. We can also respond to criticism from others by taking on a self-righteous posture of Puritanical self-denial, depriving ourselves of lifes pleasure to gain goals that may seem worthier only to ourselves. Success can come in time, but the price had best be understood.

The Midheaven line for this person is as follows:

The Saturn Midheaven line is the vertical brown line.

This Saturn Midheaven line slices through eastern Alaska, but that’s mostly about it until it reaches Antarctica. It’s too far away from Hawaii to have any influence. It appears to go near or through some islands in the Southern Pacific.

Here’s the Time Passages interpretation:

With Saturn on the Midheaven, you are concerned with hard work and achievement when visiting or residing in this location. You may find personal and romantic goals take a back seat to career ambitions in this part of the world and you are likely to be seen as responsible and reliable. You become highly dedicated to your sense of purpose in service to the greater collective values of society and have the willfulness and the stamina to make results happen. Patience, thoroughness and discipline may become your watchwords. Establishing good boundaries comes naturally. When you do not maintain discipline and stay grounded you might suffer for it, for reality checks abound here. As you learn to trust yourself and your abilities, and as you take the time and make the effort needed to get it right, you gain in admiration from those around you for a job well done. Come to terms with your expectations and create structures and rhythms that support you in reaching your goals, and you may find this place to be the most productive of destinations for you.

Dan Furst’s interpretation is as follows:

This applies especially to the studious, dogged Saturn on the MC line, often thought to be the best of the Saturn lines because it points up to the apex of the professional success and recognition that come from the hard work that the I Ching implies in its famous line, “Perserverence furthers.” This Saturn line focuses to the point of solitude, and applies to figures like the author or scholar working through the night, the monk in his scriptorium. The dangers of the line are easy enough to imagine, for one can adopt an adversarial, ego-bound “I’ll show them” posture rather than a commitment to produce one’s finest, and be refined in the crucible of sacrifice for a spiritual goal.

Here’s the map of the Saturn Descending line:

The Saturn Descending line is the faint brown line running diagonally through South America.

In this case the client’s Saturn line goes through Chile, Bolivia, western Brazil, and the three tiny countries on the northeast portion of South America. It does go through parts of northern Scandinavia, but it’s so close to horizontal at that point (high latitudes) I’m not really sure how influential it is.

Here’s the Time Passages interpretation of the Saturn Descending line:

With Saturn on the Descendant, you may in this locale find yourself considering relationship from the standpoint of authority, discipline and structure. You could develop an essential work connection here or encounter an important and long-term partner, perhaps in the form of a mentor or older person. This can also be a good place to go to get clear about which direction a relationship might be heading. You may feel thrown back upon yourself to provide the answers. Relationships that you create here tend toward the sober, and could serve more practical than romantic ends. Traditional values tend to prevail. At its most challenging, you could find that in this location you attract exacting or bossy people to yourself, or perhaps the opposite: significant others who want you to be more of a parent than a partner. At its best, you create partnership here where you share in responsibility, working with significant others to build a sustainable, productive, and lasting connection.

Dan Furst has it as follows:

The Saturn on the Descendant line is not a pretty sight. Her the emphasis is on relationships, which tend to be long on duty, short on delight, so that here one can carry a heavy load of professional and marital responsibility, and can beccome the complaining martyr who attracts the contempt of others. Job partnerships may involve older colleagues, and one may have an older love partner or spouse. There is a danger here of unequal partnership, in which one carries more than his share of the weight, and feels resentment from being ill-used. We can think of this as the Bitter Parent line, for if often appears in locations where people in late middle age are doing their best to care for elderly parents who give back nothing but abuse. A great line for masochists, and those who believe it is their lot in life to suffer.

Wow. Take heed.

Following is the image for the Saturn IC line on the person’s chart:

The Saturn IC line is the faint dotted line a little bit right of center on the page.

In this case the Saturn IC line goes through western Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, very close to the Sini Peninsula in Egypt, Egypt, Sudan, and down through the eastern side of Africa.

Here’s the Saturn on the Nadir (IC) per Time Passages:

With Saturn at the Nadir, when in this location you will feel an increased sense of responsibility especially around issues of home and family. You could find yourself called to attend to family duties or feel a sense of homeland while here. You could also find that here, your parents play a very central role in your life. On the other hand, you might feel that the time has come to take more responsibility for your own needs. You could encounter limits and boundaries here in a way that will ultimately contribute important lessons. Psychotherapy or other emotional containers could prove helpful. This is a part of the world where the consequences of careless actions will have to be reckoned with. You gain when you act fairly and delegate evenly. If you are a parent, challenges around parenting could arise and eventually serve to catalyze important growth. In any case, while you are here you could find yourself creating supportive structures that secure a healthy emotional life for you and your loved ones.

Here’s Dan Furst:

The Saturn on the Nadir line will usually mark or least happy places, unless we are moved by a compulsion to drive ourselves to the point of exhaustion. Here all our energies are devoted to the practical business of supporting our material life, so that under this Workaholic Line our job can become all-consuming to the exclusion of friendship and love, healthy pleasures, spiritual stillness and everything else, as though here we are in continuous monkey mind, only at a much slower, leaden tempo. We can be burdened here with home and family responsibilities, though it is possible to bear them gracefully, and gain the serenity of a stoic, contemplative life.

So Saturn seems to be particularly difficult on the Nadir (IC) and Descendant lines, and somewhat positive on the Ascending and Midheaven (MC) lines. This is not all that different from Mars, we might wish to question whether Mars is to be considered a ‘malific’ like Saturn. I’m not sure whether that word is even appropriate — malific.

I hope this has been helpful for you.


Repost: Mars Lines

I am running a 101 degree fever so needless to say this will be a repost. However, I’m specifically doing the Mars Lines posting because, watching Maren Altman explain her take on astrocartography(as I did a few months ago) is helpful to my own knowledge. She has tons of energy and is hard to compete with.

What she has to say about benefic planets and malefic planets are as follows:

  • In a day chart, Mars lines are malefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Saturn lines are malefic lines.
  • In a day chart, Jupiter lines are benefic lines.
  • In a night chart, Venus lines are benefic lines.

She does say that she’s only thinking about the ascending/descending lines. She wants to keep it simple.

In any case, I decided to repost my Mars lines for thematic consistency & integration. There may be (below) some contradictions to her own discourse, but I’m inspired to guide clients based on this part of her instruction.


Depending on who you ask, Mars can be a benefic planet, a malefic planet, or somewhere in between. Mars means a lot of things to a lot of different people.

Per David Cochrane’s work in Vibrational astrology (look at this video from 23:49), Mars has the meaning of “how we try to achieve things” — we wake up in the morning wanting to accomplish something. When we don’t achieve in the way Mars wants us to achieve, frustration arises. The drive to accomplish something generates energy and willpower. Cochrane (who I’ve studied under) is always looking for the energy process that causes characteristics that we consider archetypal for a given planet, in this case Mars.

Other astrologers will say that Mars has to do with our warrior ways, or our energy and willpower, or, in my view, ego. I have concluded through my own observations that if Mars is in a low degree of a certain sign, that lends itself to a more primitive ego. If Mars is in a high degree, it lends itself to a more mature ego. (I allude to this in my April 7 post).

To get to what we’re going to talk about today — or more accurately, post interpretations of different Mars lines — I’m going to relate a story to you. When I was born in New York City, my Mars IC line went right through Pennsylvania and all points directly north and south. Growing up in the New York area, I was very close to it — maybe about 100 miles away, and, just as importantly, on the east side of it, so I grew up with Mars in my 3rd house.

When I moved to Pittsburgh, PA in 1988, I moved west of my Mars IC line, so it relocated to my 4th house. I was still pretty close to the line — not as close, but roughly 250 miles away. Different astrologers have made different decisions on how close to a line the influences go. Some astrologers say you have to be less than 50 miles away. Some astrologers allow for as many as 700 miles away.

I would tend to favor a more moderate approach in between those two extremes, but notably David Cochrane says we have to be very close to the line for it to have an effect. Two years before I started his astrology program, I went to his workshop in Gainesville, FL. I didn’t learn anything from him on this issue at the time. What I did experience was the opinion of somebody in his workshop who claimed to be an astrocartographer, or at least had studied it.

It was about a month before I would leave Pittsburgh for good. I was not doing well at all there. In a particular form of symbolism, my workouts were getting more and more difficult to do over the previous year. It was like I was running out of willpower, even the willpower to live. I was also not sleeping well, and I had gained too much weight.

I wasn’t sure of the reason, but I was getting the impression that it had to do with being close to my Mars IC line. I showed my Astro Map to the astrocartographer, told him where I lived, and he said, “That’s really bad.” He confirmed that it had to do with living so close to my Mars IC line.

I said, “It feels like I’m sinking.” His response was, “And it’s going to get worse every year.”

That’s a powerful expression of being close to your Mars IC line, for sure. It wasn’t the only reason I was doing so badly, but it was among the most major reasons. When I got to Colorado, I found my workouts were super-easy. We’ll go over the Mars IC line in this tutorial. I’ll be using the interpretations from Time Passages’ Astro Maps, as well as Dan Furst’s interpretations in “Finding Your Best Places: Using Astrocartography to Navigate Your Life.” So I’ll be using the same interpretations I used for the other planets I’ve posted so far — Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus.

Let’s review what an Astro Map looks like:

An Astro Map for someone I did a reading for a while ago.

You can see both Ascending and Descending lines running diagonally from North to South and back again. This person’s chart almost has the Bowl shape — planets are distributed among 7 houses and 192 degrees, with nothing on the other side. Descending lines are slightly fainter than Ascending lines, and the vertical Midheaven and Nadir lines are solid and dashed lines, respectively.

The Mars line is bright red, but some of the other planets’ lines are red, also. Let’s zoom in to see the Mars ascending line.

The Mars Ascending line is the diagonal red line from the lower left corner to the upper right corner.

Here we can see The Mars Ascending line originating from Africa, near Libya and Egypt, cutting between Greece and Turkey into Eastern Europe, through Ukraine and into Russia, coming very close to Moscow.

Time Passages has the interpretation as follows:
With Mars on the Ascendant, experiences in this location bring out your most extroverted self. You may find that once you arrive here, you suddenly know exactly what you want and what you can do to make it happen. You could become supercharged in this place with a strong sense of personal power and a strong libido to go with it! You may find that in this place you learn the art of setting intent and taking action. You could find yourself playing the role of pioneer, ground breaker, or mover and shaker. While you might enjoy the oomph you experience in this locale, you might also find it causes you to react more aggressively than usual or to behave impulsively at times. You will want to seize the energy that becomes available to you in this part of the world and learn to use it in a way that skillfully manifest acts in service to the greatest good; acts that create power-with rather than power-over.

Dan Furst has it as follows:
There is something to be said for the Mars on the Asc line too, for this can enhance our valor in committing ourselves to our goals, and giving them our best shot. Those who’ve been timid and irresolute in asserting themselves, setting boundaries and otherwise finding the resources hidden deep within their well of courage can benefit from being temporarily under a Mars line, or from building relationships with other people under their Mars lines, who can help them in the aggressive roles of agents and sales reps.

Here’s a graphic depiction from Astro Maps of Mars on the IC line

Mars on the IC line (this is mine, as I said my Mars IC line went through Philadelphia, remember?)

Time Passages has Mars on the IC line as follows:
With Mars on the Nadir, in this place your self-assertion and will power will be tested in the arena of your most personal and private reality. This is a locale where rather than being extrovert you tend to explore issues from the depths of your psychological roots. You may find that you become assertive in these parts when it comes to dealing with home and family matters. Personal relations could become challenging while you are here, or your inner world act up in ways that you can no longer ignore. At the worst, you may find that factors in your private life catch you off guard and derail you temporarily. You might also find that you have the courage and energy you need here to face problems head on and become empowered to make real and necessary changes. With the increased energy and stamina this place tends to bring, you might find yourself in initiation, in one way or another, whether you renovate a home, plan a reunion or further your inner exploration with family therapy.

I think Dan Furst’s interpretation is more accurate, and more consistent with what I’ve heard:
The Mars line pointing down to the Nadir is one of the toughest in our maps, as it can mean an aggravating friction in practical matters of making a living, maintaining a harmonious home life and relating to the Mother. This line is not an easy one to travel under, as it can entail mechanical breakdowns and practical difficulties, so that one who travels under this line in rural India during Mercury retrograde may have a hidden masochistic streak.

Even that interpretation doesn’t quite get it.

Moving along to Mars on the Descendant line, on this particular Astro Map it mostly goes through some sparse towns in Siberia before migrating southeast to Antarctica without hitting much in between (it runs several hundred miles west of Hawaii). Nonetheless the interpretation is as follows:
With Mars on the Descendant, self-assertion with regard to relationship will likely come up for you in one way or another. In this location you may suddenly find yourself highly energized and opinionated, especially regarding close relationships, or become involved with othres in order to experience love, sex, sport, self-will, action and adventure. You could potentially become a rash, ardent or independent lover while here, or else seek out another who reflects these fiery qualities back to you. You may also discover that you quarrel more with others as a way to stand up to their strong influence, or require lots of space to yourself to integrate intense encounters or just to express independence. You could find yourself exploring a greater degree of self-reliance both within and outside of your relationships. You benefit from cultivating moderation and objectivity in the passionate dealings with others that you might encounter while here.

Dan Furst has it as follows:
Mars on the Dsc is one of our worst lines for love, marriage and all kinds of cooperation, as it can represent disputes, conflicts and out-and-out fighting with spouses, colleagues and partners of all kinds. You’d do well to find your true love under a Venus line, but don’t honeymoon with him or her under a Mars on the Dsc line unless you want what the Japanese call a Narita divorce.

Finally, let’s take a screenshot of the Mars on the Midheaven line, as it’s probably the best line of the four:

Mars Midheaven line goes through East Asia and west of Australia.

Here we see the Mars Midheaven line going through central China through southeast Asia and Indonesia before dropping west of Australia. The Time Passages interpretation has it as follows:
With Mars on the Midheaven, this place brings out an ambitious and vigorous part of your personality, especially when it comes to advancing your career and attaining success in the world. In this place you have what it takes to overcome obstacles and achieve big goals. Roadblocks and glass ceilings will not stop you here. You may also find that in this locale, you have an advantage when it comes to performing any kind of physical activity with increased endurance and agility. At its worst, you could also find you lose your temper more easily in these parts or behave impulsively without thinking about the consequences. You will also likely find that here, you access a stronger sense of will and a courageous, pioneering spirit that could allow you to move mountains. Anyway you look at this placement it benefits you to find creative ways to move the excess of energy that you will find here.

Dan Furst has it as follows:
Perhaps the best is the Mars line that points up to the MC, as this line can fortify our courage in going after challenging career and spiritual goals. This one is called the Pioneer line because it carries the bold heart of the one who builds the log cabinet in the wilderness, braves the animals, the elements and other dangers, but gains in the end the satisfaction of having dared and done an ambitious goal that demands everything we’ve got.

I would love to hear commentary from my readers who have lived near a Mars line, no matter which one, and find out how you think it’s affected you. I can only offer the IC line, and it may be that I might wish to focus on other lines (like Venus), but Mars is what it is. Furst says “Mars is impetuous, quick to anger, sexually relentless and insatiable, inclined to act once and think later, if at all.

“Who was likely to have coined the outrageous order, “Kill them all. God will recognize his own” ? Mars, of course.”

And yet this very literary interpretation of Mars is very much unlike David Cochrane’s depiction of it as a simple energy process that can affect many things, but it always starts with the energy process.

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Generational planets, yet again

Please refer to my posts on September 29 and especially, May 12 of last year for more of this talk about generational planets. Especially since those pages have the interpretations of Neptune and Pluto in each relevant sign.  But I’ll review.

Because Neptune and Pluto are such slow-moving planets, Neptune spends approximately 14 years in each sign, while Pluto, being highly elliptical, spends between 11 and 31 years in each sign.  Pluto, actually, recently had its shortest periods in the signs Libra (1971/72-1983) and Scorpio (1983-1995).  The periods for Sagittarius and Capricorn begin the trend of longer generations (per Pluto, anyway).

I wanted to use this post to delve into how I interact with the different generations.  The youngest of the Pluto in Cancer generation were born in 1939, so they’re at least 82 years old. Both of my parents were Pluto in Cancer, as were my father’s two siblings, one of whom may still be alive. My mother’s brother and his wife was also Pluto in Cancer, but my mother’s sister was born eight years later and ended up with Pluto in Leo.

There are not many Pluto in Cancer people left. But my memories growing up were pretty remarkable.

My mother was an alcoholic until 1991, and it peaked when I was a teenager. She was often emotionally violent, which may have had in part to do with repression and self-involvement, but not entirely. (She was not abusive — that takes intent to hurt — and although she really was into herself, she wasn’t interested in hurting anyone in the family, or anyone — any hurt she caused at any time was probably incidental.)

The fights between my dad and mom in the 1980s were legendary in how destructive they were. In fact, as the ’80s progressed, they were embarrassing because they involved my mother’s nearly publicly violent behavior. Her father was also an alcoholic, and she said he didn’t love his family. My mother admitted to me that she didn’t have an understanding of the concept of ‘respect.’

I see some pretty obvious characteristics through the Round Art, including ‘destructive’, ‘insatiable,’ ‘dominating,’ ‘melodramatic,’ and ’emotions squandered.’

Moving on to Pluto in Leo. Covering 1937/1939 to 1956/1958 (Pluto went backwards a sign due to retrograde in two consecutive years), these are the people who I call the Boomers even though the era is about 7 years off. We ALL have Pluto in Leo people in our life.

These people have done amazing things. Most of them don’t have to contend with Neptune in Scorpio, which didn’t start until 1956, so they are more virile than the younger generations. Ask yourself who seems to have more energy — Elizabeth Warren (born 1949), or Kamala Harris (born 1964). This isn’t a knock on Harris — I’m pleased that she’s our VP, and here’s a cool article about her. Pluto in Virgo, which Harris is part of, has its own really great strengths that are misunderstood, especially by Boomers.

This time I am going to post the Round Art interpretation for Pluto in Leo — it’s important:
dynamic emotions, authority, despotism, prominence, will to power, rule by force, extraordinary achievements; aggressive, tactless, brutal, powerful, boisterous.

“Boomers” (Pluto in Leo) tend not to understand why generations younger than they can’t do the things they can. Of course college was cheap for those born in the Pluto in Leo generation — all you had to do was achieve your educational goals, and you didn’t have to worry about cost, or debt, for the most part. Pluto in Leo tends to disregard their advantage there.

Leaving that aside, of course, what I posted from the Round Art above; the negative stuff is what it is, but the extraordinary achievements cannot be overlooked. And they tend to brag about what they have done and denigrate those younger for not doing it like them.

Somebody once wrote: “When Boomers get together in a group, they tend to bully and self-justify.” I am quite confident that this person writing wasn’t thinking of those born between 1959 (or 1957, depending) and 1964. Barack Obama (born 1961) doesn’t act like this.

We all have to navigate with Pluto in Leo people. The youngest of them is 63, but they still retain enormous power. They’re not my preference, but I’m learning (god willing) to be more diplomatic with them because that’s the only thing that seems to be successful. A full-frontal argument or attack will backfire, badly.

I’m in the Pluto in Virgo generation — actually, I’m at the tail end of it; Pluto moves into Libra 2-3 years after I was born. So peers who are mostly older than me have this placement. This is the forgotten “Generation X,” although the years are off. In the last 28 years Pluto in Leo has held the presidency for 20 and Pluto in Virgo, only 8. Besides Kamala Harris, this applies to Amy Klobuchar, Barack and Michelle Obama, and Cory Booker.

We have a little something called “accumulated detail” along with our incisive nature. The accumulated detail is important in particular because when we try to solve problems, we not only leave no stone unturned, we not only put every detail into it, we remember every detail — and it’s natural. It just is. When Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar introduce legislation, it’s like that. We are the consummate problem solvers. We don’t achieve extraordinary things with our power, which may be why we’re forgotten in popular culture.

Pluto in Virgo can be impossible, too; which is why I’ve started to appreciate the younger generations, especially as they come of age. The oldest Pluto in Libra is 50; the youngest is 37. I could see them even in my late 20s, because there is something extraordinary about them.

There’s a lot of overlap between Libra Pluto and Sagittarius Neptune — in fact, it’s almost entirely overlap. So it’s not just the Pluto that matters — Neptune in Sagittarius can be prophetically inspired. That’s important. But Pluto in Libra seek harmony and cooperation. For the most part. That’s also important, and until they came of age, we never had that in our lifetimes. Think about that.

Pluto in Libra can be ruthless and disruptive, but other characteristics from the Round Art include ‘extraordinary power of assertion,’ and, on a more event-level, ‘fame.’ I have a story about that that is too complex to be written here; obviously not everyone gets to be famous, let alone an entire generation, and this is the generation that Andy Warhol must have been referring to when he said, “In the future, everyone will be famous for fifteen minutes.” (He died in 1986; maybe he was thinking of the children.)

Extraordinary power of assertion, and also ‘manifestation of genius,’ is really cool though. Yeah, Pluto in Virgo is ‘brilliant,’ but we’ve been around longer, so we’re old news.

Pluto in Scorpio covers 1983/1984-1995. They are between the ages of 25 and 38. This includes my older niece, but not my younger niece. They are starting to come of age and many are already quite accomplished, conjuring up my jealousy. I haven’t tried to really analyze them up to this point, and this is the last generation this 51-year old is going to cover just because I don’t have too many experiences with Pluto in Sagittarius, not enough to make firm impressions. (I find Pluto in Libra to be the Millenials I and Pluto in Scorpio to be the Millenials II. Pluto in Sagittarius is Generation Z, shall we say.)

I especially experienced the Pluto in Scorpio people when I volunteered at a radio station in Pittsburgh, doing radio shows each week. I started this in 2005, so the people that were graduating were born in 1983ish, and I finished in 2015, where the people first attending were born in 1997 or even 1998; so, at least I have a little experience with Pluto in Sagittarius — the singer-songwriter who I know and who goes by “Metacara” (you can also look here, I especially like her song ‘The Map’) and sounds like Leslie Feist, though this really does get into some spiritual pioneering.

But I digress.

Pluto rules Scorpio. And my experiences at the radio station (WPTS-fm, Pittsburgh) with so many Pluto in Scorpio young adults were interesting. They were, of course, college students, and so they were a bit more intelligent than the average. They didn’t seem to much into the ‘homicidal’ nature (not literally, anyway; I can’t imagine an entire generation being homicidal).

‘Record achievements and endurance’ probably hit that generation after they graduated or otherwise exited the university. But some are insanely accomplished. Inspired? To a degree, but in this case it was a more mediocre radio station than that at the station connected to the university I attended through 1993.

These people are going to be around for a long time, so it’s necessary to understand them to a greater degree than I’m really relating here. I feel like the elder statesman who is starting to lose touch with those below the age of 38, though I may have more of an affinity with the Pluto in Sagittarius generation. Hopefully this article inspires you to look at the younger generations and give an honest telling.


To what degree has relocation astrology ‘made it’ ?

We do know that relocation astrology is trending. When I was getting ready to start my blog, I was in discussion with Aria Gmitter, who edits and has made it a very popular publication, so she knows what things have the potential to become popular.

She did a bunch of internet searches, found some sites, analyzed them and told me that I was well positioned to take care of the relocation astrology boom which was likely to come in the next few years (I think she said three, but my memory of that is fuzzy). That is, if I started now. That was in January or February 2020.

So I started my blog in early March 2020, and have been posting religiously twice a week. It was, then, which is a domain that I still own but now redirects to, which is a domain that I was using for a site that I created four years ago; that site became, which was another domain that I owned.

(I started my business more than three years ago and called it “The Evening Shift Astrology”; because of trauma from my last job I figured I would need to work the evening shift beause I am no longer a morning person. And it sounds cool too. My first website was, but I no longer maintain it and no longer pay for that domain.) is the site I picked because it was free. This is interesting, because I had a book about how to create an online business and it was telling me that you don’t want the “dash” in your domain, because people are less likely to look at it. So,, four years ago, was about $5,000 to own. I called about it recently and it now costs about $1,600. You get the sense that, over the last four years that people no longer care about putting a dash in the website. I don’t know this for sure. started off getting single digit # of page views. Eventually it made it into low double digits. Meanwhile, which as I mentioned was my older site, was actually getting somewhat more page views, even though I didn’t really do anything with it. That’s when I realized I needed to switch the sites. This was about three months ago.

Over the last two months, traffic has grown considerably, and over the last four weeks, it’s been pretty consistently in high double digits and on eight occasions has broken 100. I don’t know what this means, and I don’t know how much better it would be if I bought the domain and removed the dash.

By the way, most people get here through web searches. So two factors are at play: first, how far up I’m in the Google search results when someone is interested; second, how many people are interested.

I am spending a lot of time reading Michael Simmons’ work; I’ve gone to about three of his webinars. He is all about how to be a successful thought leader, and I may be either his client or in his educational program. Thought leadership is totally up my alley, not just on astrology. This is the article he wrote on Medium that I’ve been reading over the last day or so and find very interesting. Bitclout could go either way in terms of being a successful monetization platform for your views. I’m debating whether to use it; the thing most likely to stop me is that an upfront investment from me would probably help and may even be necessary.

I’m 51 and am trying very hard to wrap my head around Web 3.0. Reading the article helps me understand it, but I don’t truly have the ability to grasp it to the level that someone savvy who’s much younger than me might. Bitclout could be a great way for me to hit it big — or it might now. It depends, in part, on the ability for relocation astrology to truly enter the public consciousness on a mass level. It’s getting better, but it’s hard to tell how much and if it will truly ‘make it.’

Another marketing book suggests that someone like me only needs “1000 True Fans” who follow my every utterance to make a really good living on my website alone. I’m nowhere near that yet, FWIW.

I know relocation astrology is legitimate, and how I do readings encompasses some things that most relocation astrologers don’t bother touch. I have the perfect niche product. I’m always trying to learn more. I don’t know that ‘hitting it big’ is in the cards, or even if it should be.

In terms of how much relocation astrology is trending, let’s take a look at what we have. I just Googled “relocation astrology trending.” I’m really only interested in popular magazines, publications, things like that, right now. Here is what I got:

We are in page 4 of the Google search. I’m especially interested in how much women’s magazines talk about this — and we see Elle, Cosmopolitan, Allure. There may or may not be more women’s magazines further down on the Google search.

We also see Architectural Digest. Interestingly, the great astrologer A.T. Mann (I have issues with him, but whatever) originally trained as an architect, giving him a great attention to detail that he needed to do astrological work. But more importantly, that a publication based in design and engineering is basically recommending this. That’s important.

Other people would have other metrics that I’m not aware of (this article may be edited) to determine to what degree relocation astrology has ‘arrived.’ Based on what I see here, I still think of it as a niche product without unlimited appeal.

I interviewed for a job as an astrologer yesterday. (I’ll refrain from giving the name of the company unless and until I am hired). Toward the end of the interview I asked my interviewer — who is a tad older than I am — if he talked to people who are relocation astrologers. He said he hadn’t. This is an opportunity to make inroads. It also requires of us the actual work — on a one-to-one level — to do our part to make inroads with people to make relocation astrology more accepted. This may (or may not) ultimately be more important than encouraging things to go viral.


Personology extended to all of the planets

Personology, an astrological endeavor that first saw the light of day in the early-mid 1990s, has easily become part of the canon of astrological subgroupings, and its founder, the late Gary Goldscheider, did decades of astrological research to come up with his ‘system’, as I’ve alluded to before.

Personology divides the zodiac into 48 periods, instead of 12. You have Pisces-Aries cusp, Aries I, Aries II, Aries III, Aries-Taurus cusp, Taurus I, etc. This new type of division, borne out both by his own research as well as the reaction of anyone who read the book for themselves and realized how accurate it really was, made us realize that not all Sagittarians are not the same, all Virgos are not the same.

Yes, Sagittarians do have a number of things in common, but it was shown that there are many things they do not.

Personology first appeared in 1994’s Secret Language of Birthdays, a book mostly dedicated to each day of the year (with definitions of each of the 48 periods at the beginning of the book), but really went to town on the blockbuster “Secret Language of Relationships” (1997), which did a four page spread on each of the 48 periods, then did every single one of the 1152 combinations of two periods in relationship with each other.

Following that was the “Secret Lgnague of Destiny” (1999) which used the 48 periods as to the North Node’s position. There was the “Astrology of Time” (2002) which had to do with transits, and there was 2004’s “The Secret Language of Luck,” involving Jupiter and Saturn.

Finally, he just put out a book called “Personology.” This came out in 2005.

This book is about 85% ephemeris, each page taking up two months (which is why it’s over 900 pages long) and involving each of the ten planets. Each page is a graph for each of the two months; the rows are the day of the month, the columns are each of the ten major planets. The numbers in the graph are the same number that each of the 48 periods are defined as (e.g. Taurus I has always been period #6, Gemini II has always been period #11) — just like in the Secret Language of Relationships.

I think I’m writing this post today not just to fascinate you with some examples of the new information you can see, but just to remind you that yes, Personology can be applied to ALL of the planets, and the author drew on his nearly 40 years of research to give us this.

I have Pluto at 27 degrees 17 minutes Virgo. But honestly, that puts it, according to the ephemeris, on the Virgo-Libra cusp, or period #25, or “Pluto on the Cusp of Beauty.” It says:

A strong attraction to all media is present here. The desire to watch attractive images on television and film and listen to sound recordings is pronounced. Perusal of glossy magazines also has special allure. Such indivdiuals must be careful not to be so swept up in the glamour world of stars and models that they forsake the realities of everyday life.

Pluto on the Cusp of Beauty takes up about 3 1/2 years of time (since Pluto spends about 15 years in Pluto and about 12 years in Libra), and my peers, mostly those slightly younger than I was, were all influenced by this position. This is something I observed in the university I went to between 1988 and 1993.

I found myself in the progressive community basically a year after I got there. But the progressive community seemed to be more attuned to pop culture than one would expect given that progressive politics is not really given to caring about pop culture — we are more serious than that. I have one salient example of this.

One of the people I volunteered with at the alternative paper in 1992-1993, Lenny Young, started a performance art group called “NOW.” I saw them perform twice. The second time I saw them would have been sometime in the summer of 1994. Young declared to us that television does not make us understand the world, each other, or life any more. It makes us understand ‘less.’

This is someone who had a judgment about pop culture, but it was still a topic for him, and the other thing I remember about their performance was that they finished it twirling around glow-in-the-dark yoyos. That may not sound impressive, but it was the end of a very well-integrated performance; moreover, it was an image used in the service of sending a message.

As for me, I still do a radio show as I have for almost all of the years since 2005. (There was a little break spanning from September 2015 to Mars 2017.) I deal in aesthetics, because I’m playing music meant to conjure up specific moods in people. Right now, I’m listening to Jim O’Rourke’s album “Bad Timing.” O’Rourke is a polymath composer who has dipped his feet into more genres than His Name Is Alive. His music is highly aesthetic, and usually brilliant.

Those of us with Pluto on the Virgo-Libra cusp who study philosophy might be more attracted to aesthetics than, say, epistemology.

See how much truth we can draw from just one planet in just one period? But there are ten planets, 48 periods, so this book has 480 entries, one for each planet in each period, and I’ll do just one more — picking out a planet at random. My Jupiter is on the Libra-Scorpio cusp, period #29, or “Jupiter on the Cusp of Drama and Criticism:

Although Jupiter does not feel comfortable with criticism, this position tends to make success more a matter of diligent attention to detail than to sheer luck. This position of the jovial palnet favors the use of mental powers and concise expression. By conserving energy rather than spreading it too thin, success can be achieved in a conservative, straightforward fashion.

This is useful information in general, no? But actually, it’s pretty hard for me to follow right now. With doing the things I’m doing for the move (my plane flight is scheduled for June 3), and with the Astrology readings I have lined up, AND with the prospect of working for Astrology Answers (I have an interview Thursday), I most certainly AM spreading myself too thin. And I notice it. I may need to postpone doing readings (I’m working on two right now) until I’m fully relocated.

But anyway, you can see how this all works. Use your personology positions for all of the planets for insight and a more wise course of action.


Repost: What is your tolerance for picking up and starting over?

This is an interesting story for those of you who like to read memoirs. I have spent time — in the past, entire weekends and many of them — writing my story. I haven’t written as much about the recent past — by that I mean from 2012 onward — even though the last nine years were in many ways the most interesting time of my life.

There is some information about ‘how to be a good relocation astrologer’ in this article — in other words, meet the client where they’re at. Some clients have a tolerance to relocate anywhere in the world. Some clients are apprehensive about leaving the town they’d lived in for decades, and may never do so. And then there’s everything in between.

Some people who are younger do not have the means to do what they truly want to do in terms of finding another location that’s better for them. That’s not exclusive to the young, though.

But most of this article is pure memoir. As someone with a strong 17 harmonic (per David Cochrane’s Vibrational Astrology) I am HIGHLY interested in the stories of others, even as I’m relating my own story here that’s an invitation for you to share me yours. Someone said to me many years ago, “you care about people’s lives.”

I think she actually willed that characteristic in me just by saying those words. But those with strong 17 harmonics, if properly developed, generally make not only good astrologers, but good counselors, even therapists. Possibly without the same amount of formal training as most who are in the field have. They want to do whatever possible to either make their lives better or support their lives.

My own therapist has her checklist for each day and one of the items is ‘life support practice.’ That’s something that many people need.

But read below. This article dates to January 18 of this year.


I remember doing some temporary work in late 1999 or early 2000. This was only months after I had my very first Astro Map produced for me (just the map, and it was $90 — those were the days). At the time I had lived in Pittsburgh for more than 11 years, and I wanted out. Or I wanted something I didn’t have — wealth.

I wanted out in part because something in Pittsburgh was missing, and I didn’t know what it was, although I wasn’t developing the friendships that I thought I was entitled to. Or a relationship. I was pretty much indigent at that point (that was about to change, but it hadn’t, yet).

I had just joined a research study that would last the better part of three years. As I was told, it was a research and treatment study called EPICS. I don’t remember what the acronym stood for, but I did know this acronym — CET.

CET stood for Cognitive Enhancement Therapy. It was the method of treatment used in the experimental group in this study. The control group would get something called Personal Therapy, as denoted by the designer of the study, the late Gerry Hogarty. He had a Masters in Social Work, but he was also very self-taught, intelligent enough to conceptualize a method of treatment for schizophrenics that was shown to increase the amount of gray matter in the brain.

When I agreed to be in the study, the psychiatric nurse, Ann-Louise DiBarry, went into the other room to flip a coin. It went my way — it put me in the experimental group. (It is entirely possible they may have cheated because they liked me and wanted me in the experimental group, because they already knew how efficacious it was. That is just speculation on my part, but it’s speculation I’ve had since the very beginning).

I had not been diagnosed schizophrenic, but I was diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type earlier in the year. That enough qualified me. I would not be diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome for another 7 years. But I suspect that the study really helped this writer on that basis as well.

The study involved us playing computer games that would exercise the brain and cause our brains to work better. They involved reaction time, timing, and memory. The one game I particularly remember was called Trail Trace. We would be given a certain number of steps — say, 4, and would have to guess the directions of the steps of the trail (up, down, left, right).

In the end we would have to get the trail perfect before moving on to the next trail, which involved one more step (in this example, 5). And once that was done we’d move on to 6, and 7, and 8 — as far as we could go. This definitely worked out our brains. I remember the weekly therapy sessions where I would play this and other games.

After the computer exercises, we were put into our weekly group. This had seven ‘students’ — myself included; it was not a support group in the traditional sense. In fact it was a group where we would practice stretching our brains, but in a social context. The support we would give each other involved support for each of us to be better. We were helping each other grow.

I have most of the fifty lesson plans for the group, but they are probably in storage somewhere, so not available right now. Yes, fifty lessons. These groups started in June 2000 and lasted more than a year. The lessons are telling — because this was still a research study at the time and included mostly intelligent people, we were given homework assignments that were advanced relative to what most people got after the research study was over, deemed successful, and put into practice.

I can tell you it improved my outcome.

With all that in mind, let’s get back to the temporary work, remembering that I wanted out and noting that my parents would never have supported me in my move away from Pittsburgh, nor did I have the means (although they certainly had the means to help me do this, should they have chosen this).

I saw an older man carry a book entitled “A Bridge Too Far.” This was written by Cornelius Ryan, but I didn’t know that and I never read the book. It is apparently a nonfiction book telling the story of an operation among Allied forces during World War Two.

All I looked at was the title. And it resonated with me. My moving away was a bridge too far. Or, I had the capability to go so far in my change of residence, but no farther. Given my current example, it might have meant I could have gone as far as Colorado, but not as far as Hawaii.

In 2016 I moved to Colorado and now that it’s 2021 I’m considering Hawaii. Once I got to Colorado, I made some friends — real ones, for the first time in my life. One of my friends — an older woman — considered what I had done brave.

It was brave to a point. The issue here was that I received an inheritance, which was given in stages between May 2014 and October 2015 — enough to make me worth about $370,000 at one point. I had the means (and, especially, the time) to do what I did, which was quit my job and then wait a whole year before relocating, because I had to find out where I wanted to relocate to and then do a LOT of soul searching, and looking at my astrological interpretation, the same way I look at with my clients, and weigh the positives and the negatives, and take a calculated risk.

When I left Pittsburgh, I had been there for 28 years — after wanting to leave in 1999 (or earlier), it took another 17 years before I could do so. I am occasionally bitter about the lack of opportunity I had for so long. But I was also brave — just not as brave as my friend said I was.

Truly hardcore brave would have been picking up and starting over without any money.

Every relocation astrologer has to be mindful that each of their clients has a unique situation and varying degrees of comfort with the idea of moving. Many people live in one place for their entire lives, and couldn’t even think about moving elsewhere. Others have no problem with picking up and starting over. Still others are more inclined to pick up and take a job in another city — the conventional path.

Some people are comfortable with the idea of moving 50 miles, some 200 or 400 miles (the latter was my official move from the New York suburbs to Pittsburgh to enter college in 1988). Some people are comfortable moving halfway across the country, as I finally did in 2016. And — this is especially poignant — there is a minority of people, but a significant number, who are worldly (if that’s even the right word) enough to move to foreign country, or many foreign countries.

I know someone on Facebook who is from Ohio and lives in Memphis, TN. He is highly articulate, intelligent and youthful and when I finally found out he was in his 60s, I was very surprised (perhaps his youthful bent is because his Sun sign is Gemini — Gemini III to be exact, per the Secret Language series).

The idea of moving a significant distance across the country scares him. For whatever his situation (I don’t fully know his situation) it might be a bridge too far. I don’t know if it’s about money. Maybe it’s just about unease at the unfamiliar. Maybe it’s a subtle and subconscious love of where it is, or he’s just set in his ways, or a combination of most of these things.

It goes without saying that a relocation astrologer needs to be highly sensitive to the differing needs of their different clients, and that they’ll encounter situations like that of my friend in Memphis. You cannot demand courage of your clients or friends.

After I had gotten to Colorado I was having lunch in the lunch area of the local IKEA. I had a brief conversation with the cashier and told her where I was from. She remarked that Pittsburgh was a violent place. I had never expected to hear something like that. She clarified that her husband was Latino and there was a great deal of hostility toward Latinos there. But the violence could apply to anyone living there.

In the late ’90s, I was on a public bus and had a conversation with a man who had left Pittsburgh in 1959 and returned in 1991 and was struck by how xenophobic people were when he came back.

You might attribute that to the fact that in Pittsburgh, almost all the steel mills had closed, hundreds if not thousands were out of work, and the businesses they supported had to close, the economy was depressed in entire neighborhoods (though other neighborhoods were spared). In short, a dying Rust Belt town (although, it turned out, a town that managed to reinvent itself more than most other Rust Belt towns). Perhaps the xenophobia had to do with all that.

Someone passing through Pittsburgh who lived in Chicago called Pittsburgh ‘weird.’ Another person I overheard on a bus said Pittsburgh was just ‘old.’ Truly, most of the housing stock is literally a century old, yet at this point of gentrification, the prices of a typical house have been bid up from $15,000 to $30,000 to $110,000.

All of this was all I knew, for 28 years.

I had made it to Colorado and it wasn’t all that long before I successfully flipped a condominium. Not super-successfully — with all costs incurred, I made a profit of about $3,000 in a rising market — but my flip allowed me to manage people, contractors, difficult people. I did what I had to do to get this done, even though twice the place was at risk of flooding and the only reason it didn’t was because I was there.

I cannot emphasize enough that I would never have been able to do this in Pittsburgh. Not even remotely close. The 1st house Jupiter makes one capable. In Pittsburgh it was still in my 12th house, as it was at birth. No way would I have been able to flip anything there, though I so much wanted to.

As I learned, being capable does not necessarily mean you can pay the bills, but it doesn’t hurt. Having faith that the astrology works still requires knowledge of what is the scope of a planetary position. What it affects and what it doesn’t affect. If I tell people they are going to be ‘capable’ in this location, I don’t want to oversell it. But I want them to have faith in the process — so much depends on faith.

One of the reasons I enjoyed and appreciated studying under David Cochrane so much was the fact that he is a very realistic man. This makes his astrology practice and his teaching so much more credible. What it also means is that he set a tone in each and every class, and my personal encounters with him (we had lunch once, and a lot of conversation online) reinforced this. The tone he set in class affected me greatly, as I respond to changes in tone. I hope it affected the other students as well.


When I first got here

A lot of people chase jobs to other places, although with trends toward working remotely maybe that won’t happen as much. I’m too free a spirit for that, and, as described extensively on my page, I did 9 months of soul searching from a visit in 2015 to moving in 2016, leaving in early May. I drove three days from Pittsburgh to Boulder and brought my cat, Miranda, with me. It is not easy getting a cat through three days of driving, but it is not easy to get a cat on a plane, either, and I’m doing that in several weeks.

What you don’t know, I don’t think, is where I stayed to begin my trip. I had found a nice house in Boulder that an astrologer owned and that was an AirBnb, and I spent thirteen days there. Her name is Debra Silverman. She left the day after I got there for her book tour for The Missing Element. She was offering an astrological program for aspiring astrologers, she told me, and once I graduated from the program I would be one of her astrologers, and she would be referring clients to me.

I weighed the program that she offered very heavily and carefully, but in the end I chose not to enroll in her September 2016 program. There were a few reasons but one reason did not become apparent to me until pretty recently: I typically like to carve out my own path. I am not a follower, typically. I take the information that comes to me, and use it as I see fit.

(I’m not sure I’m the best ‘student’ in that sense. It was the same with David Cochrane’s program, which I did enroll in and took for a little more than 2 years studying. I like to be ‘first’ in what I do (if your birthday is ruled by Leo, ie. all dates that add up to 1, as in December 1st or 10th or 19th or 28th, that’s a typical trait). What almost seemed to be competition with other students, to me, was not especially good for my morale, especially since, as a Sagittarius II, I typically do things in no other way than my own.)

But getting back to the 13 days I stayed in Debra’s house, I was really just trying to get my bearings, and it became clear during my second AirBnb stay that Boulder was not the place for me. For one thing, there was the time during that stay where I left my wallet in a shopping cart outside a Target in downtown Boulder and I thought it was lost, and the woman inside the store exhibited no interest whatsoever in helping me, and so several days later when I was in Lakewood, a suburb of Denver, it resonated with me when a young man in a supermarket referred to it as the ‘People’s Republic of Boulder.’

My memories of Debra’s house included my trips upstairs to the kitchen to do some cooking, as I wanted to save money by not eating out. I had a few nice conversations with her stepson, who was struggling, but one book was in my possession while waiting upstairs. It was by Amy Herring and it is called “Astrology of the Moon.” It was published in 2010, a few years before I was reading it.

The Moon is considered in some astrological traditions to be the most important planet AND the most benefic planet — Mapping Your Travels, which I use in consultations and which lists and interprets the planets in order from most malefic to most benefic, have their order as follows:

  • Saturn
  • Neptune
  • Pluto
  • Mars
  • Uranus
  • Jupiter
  • Venus
  • Mercury
  • Sun
  • Moon

Amy Herring focuses the majority of her book on progressions of the Moon. This is interesting insofar as the Moon progresses at approximately the same rate as Saturn transits. The Moon takes about 28 days to transit the entire zodiac, and we use the day-for-a-year ‘secondary progressions’ to translate to about 28 years that the Moon progresses.

At that time my Moon was progressing into Virgo. Right now it has progressed into Scorpio (!)

I’ve not looked at this book much since my time there five years ago, and I’m not sure what particularly compelled me to read it then — I hadn’t really set priorities in my life; I didn’t necessarily have any real direction as an astrologer, so this book was as good as any. I pay a modicum of attention to progressions.

It was only at 10 degrees Virgo in my progressed chart then, so it would be there for at least another year. Recollecting Virgo Moon is difficult for me. Her passages in her book about Virgo talk a lot about getting organized, anxiety levels rising, and getting a lot more done in this progression than in virtually any other sign. Fixing things, but only the things that need to be fixed. Building skills — things like that.

It was unclear to me which house my progressed Moon in Virgo corresponded to — it was either the 10th or 11th, depending on whether you use my birthplace (New York City) or my current location (Boulder, at the time). I wasn’t receiving the support that relocation astrology was a legitimate line of inquiry — I wouldn’t start work on my WordPress websites for about a year, and the relocation website (which is now was the second one that I would build, closer to two years later. David Cochrane’s program would help with that.

One of the things I figured out five years ago was that my dear friend Amy, who has always been there for me, had her progressed moon in the same sign as myself. She’s about six years younger and her moon is close to three signs after mine (early Capricorn to late Pisces), so it turns out that her progressed moon is only six degrees ahead of my own. We shared a progressed moon in Virgo. This was important because we will — 80 percent of the days — be dealing with the same themes that the progressed moon signifies.

I soon forgot about that as I moved on to other things. (Going through the process of relocating will do that.) Until I picked up the book, today, and ran my chart, progressed, found out it is at 10 degrees Scorpio now, and hers is at 16 degrees Scorpio. And, since it’s Scorpio, we both now have some deep and dark stuff to deal with, and will for more than another year. This takes us out of the realm of May 2016 and into the realm of NOW.

She’ll get out of it a few months before I will, but that is probably small comfort — we are both struggling. I wanted to try to find the most pithy excerpts from the book, about Scorpio. Nothing stands out, but I’ll default to this section of the book, “How to Avoid Being Swept Out to Sea” : Cynicism. As it comes the closest to describing both of us, now.

“When the lights suddenly go out, everything seems shockingly dark and we can’t find our way. After a moment, our eyes adjust and we start to get used to our surroundings in the minimal light. If someone were to turn a bright light on suddenly, it would be painful and disorienting, temporarily blinding us. As you go through a Scorpio progression, it’s like you’re digging around in your metaphorical basement without much light. Your perspective is rather dark and perhaps you are feeling jaded, cynical, or simply depressed now. You are realizing that not everything is as innocent or sunny as it may appear, and the irritation with anythign that pretends to be innocent and sunny may interfere with your ability to see the genuine good things. Getting perspective can be difficult now, but beware of letting yourself be entirely swalled up in the dark all the time. Find ways to have a laugh whenever you can.”

It does remind me of someone who I was dating last year in the late summer. This was the first taste of darkness that I recall, and I saw it very clearly once I had this one synastry interpretation (canned, but prescient):

“Once the exciting first stages of the union have passed, it is likely that both David and Kate become embroiled in a struggle for dominance. There is no longer an impetus for change and the challenge has become wearisome. Now David and Kate’s relationship resembles a battleground in which both try to change the other. It is possible that these battles become emotionally abusive, perhaps even violent. It is important for both David and Kate to avoid senseless battles from which neither emerges triumphant. Money may be at the root of the problems, or it could be that sexual matters are a key theme in this relationship. Either way it is likely that David feels overwhelmed by this union to the point where he suffers from low self-esteem.”

(Kate, obviously not her real name.)

At the time my progressed Moon was at 4 degrees Scorpio. This was the first time I really felt the darkness; I had just started dating again, and this was not what I was expecting. Having an alcoholic mother allowed me to see patterns, and this interpretation, combined with her behavior and things she said over the past week or so before I thought seriously about breaking things off, brought out my clairvoyant side and I concluded that I could see things moving in that direction and I had to end it before we went any further down that road.

I will have to see what things are like when my Moon progresses into Sagittarius, but it won’t be until mid to late summer 2022.


A Davison chart, explained

My first client presented to me recently the situation she had of wanting to do a relocation astrology reading with her husband — together as a unit. This is a challenging situation for an astrologer to deal with, but it IS possible to do this kind of chart. It’s called a Davison chart, and it has a number of guidelines.

To begin with, it is NOT a composite chart. A composite chart just takes the two positions for each planet and averages them. So if one person has a planet at 0 degrees Cancer and another has a planet at 0 degrees Sagittarius, the composite has the planet at 15 degrees Virgo.

Two sets of planets can end up on opposite sides of the chart than originally intended. Let’s say you have one person with a 0 Sagittarius ascendant and a 15 Virgo midheaven. Let’s say the other person had a 2 Gemini ascendant and a 17 Aquarius midheaven.

The composite chart would have the midpoint of the ascendants come out to 1 degree Virgo. It would have the midpoint of the midheaven come out to 1 degree Sagittarius. So the composite chart has the midheaven three signs after the ascendant, which is unheard of unless you’re north of the Arctic Circle.

And on that level, any two planets could be ‘reversed’ like this — say I had Mercury at 1 degree Capricorn and Venus at 7 degrees Sagittarius — and you had Mercury at 1 degree Leo and Venus at 5 degrees Gemini. The midpoints would be: Mercury at 16 degrees Libra, Venus at 6 degrees Pisces. So even as the two planets are at most two signs apart in both partner’s charts, they’re nearly opposite each other in the composite chart.

If that’s not enough to tell you something about the arbitrary-ness and shallowness of a composite chart, I’m not sure what does.

The Davison chart is different. If they’re truly a unit, we take the midpoint of the two people’s birth charts — the midpoint of the two days they were born and the midpoint of the locations they were born. More on locations in a bit.

If I was born on December 10, 1969 and you were born on February 28, 1975, the midpoint would be somewhere in the neighborhood of July 19, 1975. Within a day or two, depending on the birth times. The point is to get the exactly chronologically based midpoint of the two moments in time.

Location is a bit trickier. The clients I just saw had birth locations in New York city and Boulder, CO. In their case the midpoint came to a location in Illinois. You would think that we would just average the longitudes and latitudes to get to that point. Born at 41 degrees N and 75 degrees W, averaged with 40 degrees N and 105 degrees W, we’d come up with 40.5 degress N and 90 degrees W.

You would think that was the way, but it’s not, although in this particular case the average will be pretty close to what it really is.

In fact, what needs to happen is that a great circle connecting the two points needs to be established. A great circle basically splits the planet in two and is the longest line that can be drawn around the planet, since it’s basically the diameter of the planet. Then the midpoint between those locations on the great circle is taken.

Aviators know this well. If you’re taking a plane from Taiwan (about 24 degrees N) to somewhere on the west coast of the USA, say San Francisco (about 36 degrees N), the midpoint is not at 30 degrees north in the middle of the sea. That would be a longer flight path than it needs to be, as the shorter distance between the two locations actually comes a lot closer to the Bering straight, or at least just to the south of Alaska. A great circle is created between Taiwan and San Francisco that is the shortest distance between the two locations — the direct distance.

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You can see the lines are curved, especially for longer distances. But those are exactly the shortest distances between cities.

Latitude matters a lot less in this context. If I was born at 80 or 85 degrees N, it wouldn’t matter that much if I was born at 90 degrees W or 90 degrees E — those two locations are both pretty close to each other, even though they’re opposite longitudes on the earth. You can see how averaging the longitude and latitude does not serve the partners well.

Some astrological software programs do use great circles; some do not, and it is a bit difficult to calculate a great circle in any given astrological program; it involves a good deal of math. But that’s why the lines on an Astro Map are curved, since a map is a two-dimensional image of a three-dimensional planet, particularly skewed near the poles.

Once this is done, we will have the exact midpoints between the two birth times and the two birth locations. Davison charts can be quite powerful if the two partners are truly a unit and doing things in concert with each other. Here’s a nice article from someone who has been doing Davison charts for a longer time — Corrie Cooperman.

She describes how couples whose individual charts do not particularly augur well for the location that they happen to be living in successfully in the ways that they want. She’d look at happily married couples, and for each individual’s chart she’d often find it to be an unremarkable location — not anywhere near a line, just, nowhere. Then she looked at the Davison chart and saw that it was magical.

When I do Davison charts I also look at the partners’ individual charts. There are several reasons — it’s very difficult to ascertain the durability of a union, but, more importantly, it brings us to the philosophical question of how much individuality is there for each person?

If they are truly a unit, it seems as though the indivduals have merged. And for my own personal being, that’s not necessarily how I’d want a relationship in my own life to be. Yes, there should be mutual support, always. Like many of you, I know people in successful open relationships. If there are children, of course, that does tend to merge a couple.

But the complexity and wide variety of relationships does add a layer of complexity to the procedure we’d have to use to do adequate relocation charts for those in a committed relationship. It’s not for every astrologer.