Repost: What, or who, do you trust?

This article was originally posted in May and reposted in September; it’s a vital article, though, so I’m posting it again. It has to do with, more than anything else, the reputation of astrology and astrologers and what can ruin it; it also has to do with our responsibilities as astrologers.

There are specific problems in the New Age community regarding the belief in conspiracy theories — even a group I once belonged to having to do with essential oils (which I still use) started to take on right wing conspiracy theories like QAnon. These are supposed to be enlightened people, which makes it doubly disturbing.

I know of one astrologer who almost casually reposts QAnon conspiracy theories. I know MANY astrologers who believe misinformation; part of the problem here is that since misinformation is so widespread on social media, this affects wide swathes of the population, and astrologers are no more or less immune than other groups and the population in general, to it.

I don’t really have much else to add, today; but, I would love to hear from you what you think.


Keep in mind that the The Hammer and the Dance link that I post (under “This is what science is”) is a bit dated; but really, it begs the question, doesn’t it — that if epidemiologists at a given point in time only have a limited understanding (because it’s so early in the situation) we should be following and believing a layperson?!


A friend who knows very little about astrology, although she loves the solar return charts I’ve done for her, asked me, “Do you believe in psychics?”

Somebody on another friend’s page asks, “Do you believe in mediums?”

My answer is always the same, there are lots of people with psychic power, lots of people with mediumistic power (think, tarot readers), and so forth for every other esoteric art that I can’t think of. The point I try to make is that it is fairly common, albeit remarkable.

What I sometimes let other people say is that there are lots of quacks and frauds out there. Maybe it should be coming from my words more often. If you don’t have a bullshit sensor, you can be taken in by such people. I have seen it happen, repeatedly.

Astrology has a reputation problem. Astrology, when true, is based on actual empirical information — enough data will take it out of the realm of anecdotal evidence and into the realm of an actual evidence-based practice.

Gary Goldschneider, when he wrote his personology books in the late 1990s (if you haven’t read The Secret Language of Relationships, run, don’t walk, to your nearest online bookstore), was basing his truth on over 40 years of biographical research. David Cochrane would not have been able to come up with Vibrational Astrology without the thousands of interviews he did in the 1970s.

But our government considers astrology to be entertainment, and many people, including the publishers of Wikipedia, call it pseudoscience. This is a problem. (Yes, they don’t have a concept of qualitative data, but that doesn’t stop the major PR problem that we face.)

This problem is exacerbated both directly and indirectly by things that we as astrologers do.

An astrologer I deeply respect and who I agree with on most politics does online transit charts on Facebook for political figures who are prominent today. The transit charts correspond with events that are happening that these political figures at the exact time of the event. With all that is happening with the Trump administration she has a lot of opportunities to do so.

I don’t specifically remember the event or person she was covering — it was a couple of months ago. Let’s say the person was born in 1962 — I don’t know the exact year, but we’ll use that.

She put in — get this — 2962. Everything else was correct. Then she did the transits to that birth date. And she did these transits with absolute certainty that these were the transits — making these very specific aspects to a person’s birth chart — a person who will not be born for another 940 years, and not the person she was studying and so convinced that she knew what she was talking about.

I was — needless to say — alarmed. An astrologer can destroy their entire reputation with such a careless error.

Relatedly, we were taught in class that when we do a consultation we must check with the client that we have the birth time right. This is vital. I hope I never make this mistake.

The more indirect problem we as astrologers have, one that I find very embarrassing, is what I would term “science denial” and just a general tendency to believe conspiracy theories. The most obvious topic this is happening in right now is COVID-19.

This is what science is.

The above is a thirty-minute read. It actually took me closer to an hour. The article, The Hammer and the Dance, is more than two months old, and was the best understanding of epidemiologists at the time.

Most astrologers have not read the article, and thank god the astrologer Carolyn Simpson is my friend, or I would not have read it either. And if you were to ask an astrologer to read the article?

Many are so busy reading (and believing) in the conspiracy theory that Bill Gates (an individual with a deep commitment to public health, for all his flaws) is using this as an opportunity to microchip people for the purposes of social control.

In this case, many astrologers seem to be turning away from doing what some of us find obvious should be done — gather the opinions of a number of epidemiologists and think thoroughly and critically at what they say. Any debate that happens would be based on that. In many cases, not just COVID-19, we simply aren’t.

I could easily quote other people I know who are not in the astrological community who post online something, apparently, by Edgar Allen Poe, that says, “Believe none of what you see, and half of what you hear,” not knowing that they are participating unwittingly in a deeper conspiracy than the one they believe in — the conspiracy to denigrate reason, logic, and science. But I think if we, as the astrological community, want a better reputation (if we care enough about that) we have got to be held to a higher standard than the one we’re holding ourselves to now.

Astrology and science can and should coexist. There is value in esoteric arts like astrology, tarot, mediums, psychics, and other things in which, generally speaking, we prove our points through empiricism rather than rationalism (although thinking through astrological points through rationalism is certainly an interesting exercise).

If empiricism is the scientific method, then astrologers have a strong leg to stand on. We should be confident that our methods are good. Similarly, in the case of COVID, we should be listening to epidemiologists. On other scientific issues, we should be listening to the people with the most experience and the most sound thinking, with discrimination, and without rushing to assume there is an agenda, unless that assumption is truly warranted.


More motivational factors pertaining to my move to Hawaii

So, I did something last night — I bought a one-way plane ticket to Honolulu. This is, as my friend Amy put it, ‘a big step.’ It’s not the biggest financial commitment I’m going to make in service of this move (it’s arranging lodging that’s going to do that) but it wasn’t easy to do. If it turns out I don’t move to Hawaii, this could be the first leg of a round trip to Hawaii — in other words, just travel.

I didn’t feel that great about my decision this morning, but since my workout, I feel somewhat better, although still ambivalent. (I’m not very clear-headed before workouts.) Please refer to my post from March 15 about this; this post today is going to build on that with the other things I’m thinking about this.

Picking up and moving is not easy for me; I have four earth planets — Moon and Mercury conjunct in Capricorn, Saturn in Taurus, and Pluto in Virgo. I tend to get rooted to the places I live in; the roots in Pittsburgh were 28 years long (although genuinely, I wanted to leave early on), and my roots in Denver are 5 years in the making. If you have fewer earth planets than I do, you’re going to have less hard of a time.

(To illustrate this, because I do a radio show and because I’m old-school, I have roughly 800 CDs sitting in CD towers on the other side of this room. Of course, the younger generations don’t deal with CDs at all — everything’s digital on their computer, tablet, I-phone, whatever. Almost all of my music is uploaded, too, but the difficulty for me has to do with just giving away my CD collection when I’ve been accumulating it for eighteen years is pretty damn hard for me! This is a classic earth planet reaction.)

18 years in the making. And yes, alphabetized.

It has been said that it takes one Mars return from the point you arrive somewhere before the place feels like home. Usually, that’s roughly one and three-quarters years. I’m here to say that it took a bit longer than that for me — it took around 2 1/4 years. It’s fairly clear that I’m going to go through that again in Hawaii. That being said, the place felt very home-like to me during my two visits; obviously, being so close to your Venus IC line will do that!

The Friendship & Family Map, one of the Treasure Maps on SIRIUS 3.0, illustrates comfort zones on a personal level. You can see the Venus IC line going between Oahu and Kauai. You can also see the Venus square Ascendant as a slightly diagonal line crossing over the Venus IC line (which actually creates a paran right through Oahu).

One thing about these Treasure Maps is that the orbs that David Cochrane supports as relevant to the lines are fairly small relative to the orbs that most astrologers use. I put out a call on the Facebook group for opinions about how large an orb can be before there’s no longer any influence. One person said “400 miles” which is in the 7-8 degree range in most temperate latitudes.

I’m used to Pluto being in my 11th house since I was 18. In Hawaii it ends up in my 1st house. This morning I thought vaguely about Pluto being sextile my Midheaven here in Denver. I posted about that (the Mapping Your Travels interpretation) in the March 15 post, but I want to repeat it:

Organizational abilities, perseverance, concentration, self-control, and endurance are likely to contribute to your vocational success in this locale. Research abilities may be enhanced, and your dedication and thoroughness could impress authority figures. Loyalty is apt to be a major issue, and you are capable of making a strong commitment. On the downside, power struggles are possible with bosses, family members, and just about anyone. A spouse or mate may contribute to your success in the material world, and your ability to read nonverbal cues and look beneath the surface of life will help you in making pragmatic business decisions. You may find it easier to do fundraising, get loans, or use money to make money (investments). Business partnerships are possible. Counseling and consulting talents are probable.

In particular, the counseling & consulting talents. They are very real here. That’s a big deal. Would I be leaving that behind. I’d think that most astrologers don’t have Pluto sextile their Midheaven — how are they able to do so well?

The fundraising hasn’t really panned out.

What does Mapping Your Travels say for Pluto in my 1st house?

With Pluto in the relocated first house, you can increase your physical stamina or develop more self-discipline and inner mastery. In this location it’s easier to transform yourself, to turn negative habits into positive ones. However, expect power issues to emerge, both in yourself and others.

This is very important, I noticed it when I was there, and to some degree it replaces the loss of Jupiter in the 1st house. But it doesn’t say anything about consulting & counseling talents. That was one of the reasons I felt bad and ambivalent this morning. More reasons I felt that way coming up.

I want to move on to Mercury moving from my 3rd house here in Denver to my 4th house in Hawaii. I know somebody with a Cancer Mars and I see how the influence manifests. I’m going to use the Round Art, here:

perception, memory, thinking influenced by feeling, slow but retentive intellect; psychological, irrational, sentimental, profound, diplomatic, discreet, poetic, agreeable.

With the exception of “irrational,” I really want to experience this. Especially the ‘slow but retentive intellect.’ It’s like a secret weapon.

One of the contrasts between Denver and Hawaii has to do with self-sufficiency. That’s Jupiter in my 1st house — the entire western half of the mainland. Including here. One of the midpoints with Hawaii is:

  • Midheaven = Neptune/North Node (135, 0.6) – The need to develop more self-sufficiency.

Yes, that worries me.

One thing I wasn’t worried about this morning but that could pose a problem, has to do with two things — my midheaven, currently in Cancer, moving back to Gemini; and my Jupiter moving into my 2nd house. Let’s unpack this. Cancer Midheaven, per Round Art:

simplicity, tactfulness, modesty, thrift; responsible, concerned, conservative, dedicated, emotional, slow, clinging, avaricious.

Two things strike out: ‘thrift,’ and ‘slow.’ I noticed both of these things immediately after getting here. I accepted my ‘slow’ state, but it has not served me well here, honestly. Thrift is a different story. I spent with a free hand in Hawaii, and that’s a problem, and part of it has to do with the Midheaven moving out of Cancer and part of it has to do with Jupiter in my second house. Per Mapping Your Travels:

Jupiter in the relocated second house could help you succeed if you’re looking for opportunities to expand your material base, money, and possessions. But this placement also encourages spending and extravagance. You’re apt to place a higher priority on comfort, pleasure, and gratification from the physical world in this location.

In general, there is a great deal of 4th house influence in my Hawaii relocation — Sun, Moon, and Mercury move into the 4th house. If my birth time is correct, Venus also moves into the 4th house in Kauai, but for other astrological reasons, I don’t want to go there.


So what else made me feel bad? It may just be the things that make me feel bad are not about the wisdom of moving to Hawaii, particularly for someone in my financial situation, but the negative feelings in this location that would not be there in Hawaii. I cited this extensively in my March 15 post, but it bears repeating.

In Hawaii:

  • Moon = Jupiter/Midheaven (135, 1.5) – Indicative of success.  Often fame.  A caring person.
  • Jupiter = North Node/Ascendant (135, 1.7) – An individual who is a terrific inspiration to others.  The ideal priest or professor.
  • Jupiter = Sun/Midheaven (135, 0.7) – An optimist.  Successful progress in the career.  Involvement in publishing, the law or religion.
  • Midheaven = Venus/Ascendant (135, 0.6) – There is psychological integration between the objectives in life and the individual’s personality.

And that’s just career related; I’m not citing the things that are attitude-related. Contrast with Denver:

  • Neptune = Moon/Midheaven (45, 0.6) – Difficulty in keeping in touch with the rat race.  Tendency to worry extensively over work/career.
  • Pluto = Neptune/Ascendant (45, 0.9) – The influence will tend to cramp the go-ahead qualities of the Ascending sign.
  • North Node = Saturn/Midheaven (90, 1.2) – A difficult person who is often uncooperative at work.
  • Midheaven = Saturn/Ascendant (0, 0.7) – One who will take the career and aspirations very seriously and be coldly ambitious, or who will crumble under the burdens in life.
  • Midheaven = Neptune/Pluto (90, 0.8) – The inability to hold down a progressive career.  The constant need for change.
  • Midheaven = Mercury/Mars (180, 1.3) – Frequent dissatisfaction with career.  Will keep changing direction in life.

This is all just a big pessimism ball. My feelings here have to do with HERE, not how things will feel, THERE.

That being said, let’s look at this. I am moving to a place with no real safety net that I am aware of, and with roughly $36,000 (not all that I can use, that’s actually to be taxed as income) when I used to have nearly mid-six figures.

Having Asperger Syndrome, I am not particularly ’employable,’ although that’s particularly the case here in Denver, and my work ethic could get a lot better in Hawaii, although, as Hawaii’s main industry is tourism, the unemployment rate is much higher there. If I needed to get a job, having not have had a real one since April 2015, that might be easier said than done.

I know one person there well, although I am starting to get to know a second. I know another person who is originally from Denver, has spent long periods in Hawaii, and is on her way back. These are all women; I’m socially heterosexual.

On a related note, there is something my friend Amy suggested to me, “Isn’t it, wherever you go, there you are?” I said I half agreed. That inspired me to write my March 1 post, which I’ll cite the midpoints in particular that do not change for me, no matter where I go:

  • Mercury = Saturn/Neptune (45, 0.4) – Inhibition blocks positive thinking.  The person may moan: “If only I’d had a better upbringing/education/my relationship hadn’t ended.
  • Mars = Saturn/North Node (45, 1.7) – Acceptance of vulnerability to depression and a desire to rid the self of it, but an ongoing battle.  An unpredictable friend.
  • Saturn = Moon/Neptune (135, 2.0) – Possibility of above-average disappointments in life and the inability to make the best of things.
  • Saturn = Mars/Uranus (135, 0.4) – Frustration inhibits the full development of potential.

But also:

  • Jupiter = Sun/Venus (45, 1.2) – Generosity.  The belief that it is better to give than to receive.  An easy, relaxed attitude to partners.  Natural charm.  A “lucky” person.
  • Jupiter = Mercury/Mars (90, 0.2) – Natural ability to teach.  A jovial person, excellent communicator.
  • Jupiter = Moon/Mars (90, 0.2) – An uncomplicated person.  Flair for solving problems easily and succinctly.  Optimism.  In tune with the emotions.
  • Uranus = Sun/Jupiter (45, 0.3) – An optimistic outlook on life.  Self-belief.  Successful enterprise.

For me, there were a total of 49 midpoints that were not location-dependent, and I’ve only cited eight, but I’ll leave it there as I think you get the gist of what’s going on here. I have inner work to do. We’ll see if I do it.


Repost: Steven Forrest’s “The Book of Neptune” (and, 22 years earlier, “The Book of Pluto”)

A post from September 11, 2020. Here is what I would add:

What does it mean to have language acquisition skills? Every good writer has a well-developed language center in the brain. This language center can be connected to ‘procedural skills’ that might be in an adjacent center in the brain. Procedural skills having to do with the language center that affects our skills as writers.

On one extreme we have “Introduction to Text Linguistics.” That was a book assigned to us in my first major-fulfilling English class. On that same extreme we have the proper teaching of speech and language to very young children, where words are assembled through phonetics (NOT the whole-word method, for god’s sake) and then identified on a piece of paper. On the other extreme are writers who have incredible procedural skills as to how their writing is developed on a given day, how these procedural skills mix with our current consciousness, which, on a good day, creates miracles on the page.

I mention all this because this post has to do, in part, with how discourse has developed, especially over the last thirty years with the advent of word processing. (I have particularly excelled under the modern word processing regime far more than I would with a typewriter.) The other part of the article is about Steven Forrest’s writing on two books, covering two outer planets, written 22 years apart (as well as what Forrest’s writing is about related to astrology, which is what this blog is for). It is interesting to contemplate how we might adapt to different style/substance regimes that will develop over the NEXT thirty years. We writers who are older might want to think about this from time to time.


Discourse is a funny thing. In its written form it may have originated, or at least began in earnest, with Ts’ai Lun, the inventor of paper, around 100 C.E., and accelerated in the 15th century by Johann Gutenberg, who brought forth what we would now call the printing press, through a synthesis of many elements. (Ts’ai Lun and Gutenberg were considered by one source to be the 7th and 8th most influential people in human history.)

I think of discourse because I write, of course, but also because I was in the middle of what might have been the 3rd or 4th or 5th wave of discourse production, the use of word processing. At this writing I am 50, and was privy to the beginnings of the Apple McIntosh, originally hitting us around 1985 and maybe the first “windows”- oriented system. I wrote high school papers using the library’s McIntosh, since I didn’t have one.

I entered university in 1988, when there were computer clusters and more advanced McIntoshes, and joined the alternative paper (The Student Union) in 1991, eventually being one of its “non-editors” through about 1993. We had a software program called “Pagemaker” which we used to convert articles written like paper to “print-out friendly” pages on our 11×17 tabloid. Articles could be juxtaposed in any way preferred on those pages simply by moving the physical scope of an article anywhere on a page. And then published — not, of course, until we pasted the pages onto the larger 11×17 page and sent it in to the printer. But it was still an advance over typesetting machines.

These were the beginnings of word processing. Over the past thirty years, with Windows computers of increasing processing power combined with the increasing reach of our ability to answer nearly any question or curiosity we could possibly ask through doing a Google search — which, of course, was a major improvement over the web browsers of the 1990s — I have noticed the style, even the content, of discourse has changed.

Even the simple act of being able to move any words around anywhere and not have to write, with a typewriter, from the beginning to the end, linearly, without being able to insert words or whole paragraphs or write the damn article in whatever order we choose, makes a difference in how we organize our thoughts and our words on the page. If this is not apparent to you yet, compare the writing on a New York Times article from 1985 to one in 2003 to one in 2020.

Or compare this. Stephen Forrest wrote a book called “The Book of Pluto” in 1994, and 22 years later he wrote a book called “The Book of Neptune.” I have both of these books on my lap. They are the perfect barometer of this writing style change. Of course, what I wanted to do was discuss Stephen Forrest’s Book of Neptune, until I was reminded that a compare-and-contrast would be delightful to lay out and discuss.

Let’s just say that Stephen Forrest learned a whole new style of writing. Better? Perhaps. More reflective of his age and wisdom (and consciousness) developed over the twenty-two years between books? Yes, that too.

Just excerpting from the Book of Pluto, he has a section for Pluto in each of the houses, and subsections within each of the houses entitled “In The Tradition,” “Your High Destiny,” “Your Distorting Wound,” “Your Navigational Error,” “The Healing Method,” and “The Energizing Vision.”

I always get fixated on Pluto in the 10th House since my Pluto is there in my natal chart, although, it did relocate to my 11th house, and stayed there, at the age of 18. From what I can tell, Stephen Forrest tends to think that the natal chart has some primacy over the secondary relocation chart. About a year ago, I watched a video of him talking about the relocated chart being “in its place” relative to the lessons we have to learn which are only in the natal chart. The relocated chart “has its place.”

Anyway. I always like the “Your Navigational Error” of Pluto in the 10th House. It goes like this:

“Would you stroll across a sunlit meadow for a million dollars? Not to put thoughts in your head, but I feel a high degree of confidence in my ability to predict your answer.

“What if the meadow contained nine deadly buried land mines? Now your answer enters more distinctly into the realm of individuality. My guess is that some of you would abruptly change your minds about the stroll, while others would start balancing the joyful prospect of the cash against the probabilities of more cataclysmic eventualities.

“Let’s add a third condition: there is a hungry Tyrannosaurus Rex pursuing you. Across the meadow lies your only escape. Suddenly taking your chances with those land minds has more appeal.

“Before we add a fourth condition, let’s sit with the image for a moment. There you are, nervously light-footing it across the sunny grass, torn between scrutiny of each footfall and jittery over-the-shoulder considerations of our Jurassic friend. Are you appreciating the sheer beauty of the meadow? Are you mentally designing the dream-home you might build there with the million bucks? (Do you even remember the million bucks?) Probably not. Under that kind of pressure, more aesthetic, creative interests recede into the background.

“Our fourth condition: the dinosaur is a fake, one of Spielberg’s clever illusions. There are no buried land minds; it was a lie.

“Your behavior in the meadow makes sense, but only on the basis of the information you believe. If we stopped you and said, “You know, when you get that money, I’m seeing a Frank Lloyd Wright design up there on that rise –” you’d look at us as though we were utterly mad. You would be perfectly convinced that you were behaving in the only possible way, given the threatening realities.

“The illusory realities.”

Believe it or not, that passage and that chapter in the book was one of the most inspiring things I read in the run-up to my moving across the country, something I decided to do while so many other people would have stayed put where they are. I was called brave by several people for that, but I depended on reading things like this to come to my decision.

Thank you, Steven.

I am going to add a little bit about what he says in the Pluto-in-the-signs, including Pluto in Virgo, for more than anything else to give you more of a sense of his writing style in 1994. In his Pluto-in-the-signs, there are subsections for “The Passion,” “The Style,” “Blind Spot,” “The Shadow,” and “The Saving Grace.” In his section in Virgo called Blind Spot, he remarks as follows:

“Ideals are difficult to attain. Perfection is a merciless standard by which to judge oneself.

“Here’s an attitude that simultaneously guarantees impressive accomplishments and total despair: “I’ll be happy when I get this exactly right.” It may work fine with cooking dinner or getting a computer program running, but when it comes to working on the more purely human level of life, it will certainly fail. We will never be happy. What man or woman is “perfectly sane?” Or even “shaped perfectly?” What relationship has no rough places, no immortal understandings, no epic frustrations? Life is messy business, and one of the secrets of existence lies in knowing when to say, “This is good enough!” And relaxing, enjoying, appreciating — we might add forgiving.

“Difficulty accepting reality — that’s the key blind spot for Pluto-in-Virgo. Let me emphasize that I speak of “accepting” reality. This is utterly distinct from the question of whether one sees reality. Seeing reality clearly is an enterprise at which Pluto-in-Virgo can whup Pluto-in-Leo before breakfast. But to accept reality — especially one’s own flawed reality — and not be brought to despair by it: that’s the art that Virgo may lack.

“If Pluto-in-Virgo falls into that idealistic trap, it paradoxically ceases to appear idealistic at all. Instead, it descends into cynicism, a sense of doomed impossibility, and hypercriticality.”

This was the state of discourse in 1994.

(The back of the book also offers two astrological software programs, and you can just imagine what 1994 technology for astrological software was and how that’s all we had to use. Another thing we should ask David Cochrane about, since he worked with these charting sources from the 1980s on).

Moving forward 22 years, and The Book of Neptune, I want to focus on Neptune in the 2nd house, which is where my Neptune relocated to when I moved to CO (it started in my 1st house by birth, but I want to use this relocated type as I find it more apropos in some very important ways. That doesn’t mean that I won’t eventually come around to Neptune in the 1st house, it’s just the passages I want to use right now.)

This section of the book spends about six pages each on Neptune in each of the 12 houses. He goes into a lot of other aspects of Neptune, such as aspects between Neptune and the other planets (I have a moderately strong Mars-Neptune square, a strong Neptune-Pluto sextile, a very strong Jupiter-Neptune semi-sextile, and a weak Venus-Neptune conjunction, for example). He has a nice little section on page 78 summarizing how we should meditate with each planet’s aspect to Neptune. Neptune-Venus “loving empathy,” Netpune-Mars “warrior mind.” And so forth. Then he gives entire chapters on each planetary combination.

The summary for Neptune in the 2nd house goes as follows:

Honoring your attainments on the Path — and avoiding the underestimation of your actual evolutionary state. Choosing appropriate and effective levels of inner practice. Being “willing to pay for it.” Benefits deriving from relationship with sacred objects: statues, stones, relics. Proving one’s self-spiritually.

Bet the house.

Leaking energy: Wasting time on practices that are no longer useful given your actual evolutionary condition. Dithering self-doubt. Complications stemming from financial confusion.

Wow, this screams at me! Even as I finish a men’s group program where we do spiritual morning practices every day, I question to what degree these practices are helping me, which ones I should use, and how I should look at these things in relation to my spiritual evolution. And growing up in a place (a part of metro NY) where spirituality was not valued makes a difference here. Let’s quote on:

“Classically, the second house is called the house of money. We will soon see that its actual meaning carries us far beyond the financial realm, and not just because we are talking about lofty Neptunian concerns — in fact, when we consider its lower expressions, we will see that money ranks near the top of the list of people’s favorite Neptunian addictions.

“In the second house, we often encounter issues of self-confidence, along with actual financial ones. The key is that the former can masquerade as the latter. In the second house, we wrestle with our willingness to take care of ourselves, or reward ourselves, or to be kind to ourselves. We wonder if we have what it takes. These are the psychological dimensions of the second house. In thinking about Neptune in this position, we will need to deal with them — as well as with the more purely practical financial and material definitions of the symbolism.”

Let’s stop here and focus on the writing. On the consciousness expressed by Steven Forrest, consciousness that is different in tone, content, and maturity from his book 22 years earlier. Go back to the Pluto section and compare it to this. And if that’s not enough for you, I’m going to continue to quote more of the most relevant sections of this chapter of this book.

“Say you have Neptune in the second. Here’s a question for you: How much are you willing to invest financially in your own spiritual journey? This is a totally concrete, dollars-and-cents question. If you’re not willing to invest financially in your spiritual journey, what does that say about you? What does that say about how much you value the spiritual journey — or how much you value yourself? We bounce right back to questions of self-worth, in other words.

“Sometimes, given the realities of modern life, it costs money to take care of your soul. That feels uncomfortable to say, and I suspect it sounds a little uncomfortable to hear. We can always sit in meditation — that’s free and always will be. But there are certain experiences we might need in order to support that inner journey. And a lack of money — perceived or real — can potentially place an obstacle between us and having those experiences. If you have Neptune in the second house, there’s a good chance that issue is going to get stirred up. And we need to be alert to the possibility is that the real issue is self-worth, with money only acting as a kind of paper tiger.”

This whole chapter is going to be totally relevant to our understanding of having Neptune in the 2nd house, but I want to skip ahead to one of the later theses in this chapter, as follows:

“Now let’s get right to the heart of the matter. The spiritual path, broadly and inclusively defined, embraces so many different levels and practices They range from mundane things, such as attending church on Easter, up to nine-day fasts in the desert. Earth is kindergarten through the twelfth grade. There are many primitive souls here. Let’s respect them and have compassion for the suffering they inevitably create for themselves. They give evidence of their condition through their abject materialism, by a denial of spirituality, by believing that violence will solve things. We’re not making fun of them, we’re not busy feeling superior to them — we’re just looking at them with clear Neptunian eyes.

“And then, at the other end of the spectrum, we have, for one example, the Dalai Lama. To me, he illustrates a very lofty state of Neptunian evolution.

“Now imagine that I have dinner with the Dalai Lama — a happy thought. Halfway through the meal, I put down my fork and I say, “Dalai, I hope this doesn’t seem pretentious of me, but I’ve been meditating now for several months, and I’d like to share a few tips with you.

“I hope you’re laughing! I am laughing too. What’s wrong with this picture? Obviously, I am in no position to share meditation tips with His Holiness the Dalai Lama. He is in a higher grade than me”…

“The aim with this configuration is not to avoid spiritual inflation — that is generally not an issue here — but rather to attain clarity about exactly where we are on the spiritual map. If we have clarity about where we are in the journey, we will avoid inflation and egotism. But we will also avoid the equal and opposite error of deflation — which is a soul-cage very much available to you if you were born with this configuration.”

I’m excerpting a little later:

“And if we took that yogi out of the cave and sat him down in that rural church, he would be respectful of these simple souls doing their simple practice, but he would not benefit from being there. He is already too advanced to be helped by that kind of church.

“The point is that if you underestimate yourself spiritually, you will be drawn to practices that are no longer effective for you. That’s the core trap for people with Neptune in the second house. That is the heart of the matter.”

Thank you, Steven.

For your expansion of consciousness over the years — though, as a general rule for everyone, we need to be careful with this later talk, to avoid the practice of snobbery, which I think you understand well; and also, for your willingness to engage with the discursive advancements that our word processing and information gathering technology has afforded us.


What an Astro Map on Sirius looks like

For the clients I have, the report I write goes in three stages, in this order:

  • I start with the Midpoint Analysis for each location – I get the midpoints from Time Passages, and use Parkers’ Astrology to analyze them. It averages about 30 midpoints per location, but there is great variation — I’ve had as many as 45 and as few as 14.
  • I do an Astro Map analysis, largely centered on Treasure Maps. This is using Sirius III software.
  • I do a planet-in-houses analysis, including where the ascendant and midheaven land at a location as part of a matrix of which house each planet is in for each location. Once that’s done, I use descriptions from the Round Art of Astrology, for both the planetary houses and ALSO which planets are in aspect to the ascendant and midheaven location.

Something that is not in the report but is part of the reading and given separately to the client is the Mapping Your Travels and Relocation report. This also does planet-in-house and also planets aspecting the Ascendant and Midheaven in each location. So it uses the same data I plug into the Round Art, but the interpretations are a bit different, both in terms of verbiage style as well as content.

I might do other alternative things in the reading if I consider them appropriate.

I want to focus on Astro Maps today. I haven’t done too much of that, although there’s a January 5 post (‘How to interpret an Astrological Map‘) where I go into both Time Passages interpretations and Sirius III interpretations. I want to focus on the Sirius III interpretations today, particularly the Treasure Maps, as that’s explicitly one of the things you’re going to get in a consultation from me.

If you have access to the software, you would click “Maps” about halfway through the blocks near the top of the page.

One type of setting for a Sirius III Astro Map, though the map isn’t being shown yet. This is on the Treasure Maps setting; if I were to click OK, it would show the Treasure Map for the Imagination & Inspiration category, which will involve Neptune lines.

Clicking “OK” on the map brings us here.

These Treasure Maps take a conglomerate view of the planets appropriate to it. This particular one is under Imagination & Inspiration and involve Neptune aspects to the four angles or “lines” — Ascendant, Nadir, Descendant, & Midheaven. There’s a lot more information here, more than just the four lines.

I would like to emphasize that I use Treasure Maps, covered earlier, in both my Basic Astro Maps as well as the detailed consultations. The Treasure Maps encompass the following, in the following order:

  • Love & Romance
  • Vocation & Career
  • Friendship & Family
  • Imagination & Inspiration
  • Excitement & Instability
  • Friendship & Family, detailed
  • Education & Communication
  • Culture & Creativity
  • Optimism & Opportunity
  • Responsibility & Focus

In consultations, I automatically cover all of the first six by default except for Imagination & Inspiration, at a bare minimum. I cover any of the other ones when it is or seems warranted based on the situation that the client presents.

So I want to cover all ten maps, except for Imagination & Inspiration, which we covered above. Underneath each of the nine remaining maps will have a caption that explains what has to happen for a place to be shaded in on the map and therefore active.

Before I do that, I will say in the consultation, I do the maps in the report and consultation in the following order:

  • Friendship & Family
  • Friendship & Family, detailed
  • Excitement & Instability
  • Love & Romance
  • Vocation & Career

I do it in that order because the most crucial stuff is at the top. If you are in a Friendship & Family shaded area, you almost have it made. If you are NOT in a Friendship & Family, detailed shaded area (remember – about 90% of the map in Friendship & Family, detailed is going to be shaded in), then you are not likely to have the resources you need to do well, and it’s a location you should almost definitely avoid.

I then do Excitement & Instability. This is going to be more important for some people than others. If you have instability in your life already or are an unstable person, you’d want to avoid the location. Even if you don’t have these problems, I would tend to avoid the location unless there is a lot of other good stuff in the area in question (of which we’d determine through the whole consultation, not just through Astro Maps).

That’s why I do those three before I do Love & Romance or Vocation & Career.

So, let’s get started, in the order they’re listed on the Map settings, NOT in the order that I prioritize. Here’s a Love & Romance map:

These always involve Venus, or the midpoint between Venus and another planet, being in aspect to one of the four angles.  Noviles and quintiles are allowable aspects, as are squares.  These do about what you’d expect, and if you’re already in a relationship, being in or moving to this location will enhance your experience with your significant other in this realm. Living on a Venus line will be attractive because it is beautiful to the person. 

Here’s a Vocation & Career map:

This does what you’d expect, and involve Mars, Jupiter or Pluto.  Only direct conjunction to one of the four angles are allowed.

Here’s Friendship & Family:

This generally indicates locations that are very comfortable for the person on a personal level, as areas affected have either Moon or Venus involved, especially in novile aspect to an angle (40, 80, 120, 160 degrees from Midheaven, Ascendant, IC, or Descendant).  Only a small proportion of a map is influenced.
(Again, living on a Venus line will be attractive because it is beautiful to the person.  People often move to a Venus 9-vibration.  Venus sextile the Ascendant will mean it is trine the Descendant line.  A novile, in this case indicates ease with the community or environment.  As the Venus is sextile the ascendant in Pittsburgh, it is trine the descendant, and trine is technically a trinovile (120 = 40 x 3), meaning the same sorts of things.  People often end up living on their Venus 9-vibration line.
A Moon line will have a sense of family, history, or nostalgia.)

Skipping over Imagination & Inspiration, since we did that, we finally get to Excitement & Instability:

These are areas that on balance you’d probably want to avoid unless there are compelling reasons to stay (e.g. very positive influences in most other respects).  These will always involve Uranus, which can be a destabilizing planet and can be novile, septile (sevenths of 360 degrees), or quintile (multiples of 72).

Moving to Friendship & Family, detailed:

This indicates locations that are very comfortable on a business level.  Day to day life will be made easier.  These include ALL planets in some novile aspect and therefore take up most of the map.

Everything that’s from here on out are things I typically do not cover in a consultation. Here’s a typical Education & Communication map:

These always involved Mercury, often as the midpoint of Mercury and some other planet being on an angular cusps. If ONLY Mercury is involved, it can be an aspect to an angle, like trine or sextile; if it’s the midpoint between Mercury and another planet, it will have to be directly on the angle. To quote directly David Cochrane’s explanation on Sirius, it “indicates that this is a place where you are likely to take classes and learn new things. You will find yourself in situations where you are speaking or writing, and sharing ideas with others.”

Moving along to Culture & Creativity:

These will always be quintile aspects to one of the four angles. Every planet can be involved. David Cochrane puts it as follows: it “is especially important for artists and lovers of the arts. A high score in this category indicates that you become involved in creative and interesting ways of doing things and you pay more attention to the creative, playful, and entertaining sides of life than you do in most other places.”

Optimism & Opportunity looks like this:

In order for an area to be shaded in, Jupiter has to be involved — either as one planet in a midpoint to one of the four angles, or on its own on one of the four angles. Only direct angles, no trines, sextiles, etc. According to David Cochrane in his Sirius software, it “indicates that you are likely to have many enjoyable experiences in this area, to have an active social life, and explore different things. You are likely to mix with different kinds of people and this larger social network and range of activities does bring some welcome opportunities. A score of zero in this category indicates that you are likely to be highly focused on the things that you are commited to and relatively undistracted; unexpected good luck is not likely to come to you here.

The Responsibility & Focus map looks as follows:

Saturn has to be involved. It can either be at an aspect to or directly on an angle, on its own. If there’s a midpoint between Saturn and another planet, it can only directly be on an angle. Again, according to Cochrane, it “indicates that you are likely to be given important responsibilities in this area and you take life seriously here. You are likely to feel inspired to get involved in an exercise program, improve your skills, get your financial situation in order, be especially responsible at work. A score of zero in this category indicates that you are not likely to feel burdened down by responsibilities and even your own conscience while here. A score of zero here is good if this is a place that you are planning to visit for a vacation or relaxation.”

That covers the ten categories. I will leave you with an offer: knowing what you now know, if you choose to do a consultation with me and would like to cover one of the five maps that I don’t typically do (Imagination & Inspiration, Education & Communication, Culture & Creativity, Optimism & Opportunity, or Responsibility & Focus), please ask me to cover it, and I will.


Why a compatibility chart done by the book can still be moot

I wrote a paper sometime late in my course giving an example of someone I was interested in. I’m going to post this paper, which you can read, now. I’m not that good at compatibility astrology, but the chart seemed to augur well for a good relationship. (I’m doing it according to David Cochrane’s method.)

This is another thing that Cochrane said. What are your needs? What are your potential partner’s needs? What are your affinities? His analysis of astrology was always based in a kind of realism.

The reason this relationship wouldn’t have worked is about the following: We were in different generations. She was older, which wouldn’t be a problem per se, but she is in the Boomer generation. And by Boomer generation I mean the following: Pluto in Leo generation (covering 1937/39 to 1956/58, particularly; our Neptune are both in Scorpio.

But this Pluto in Virgo (1956/58 – 1971/72) individual does not particularly relate to Pluto in Leo. The outlooks — the basic philosophies — are so different from each other. Pluto in Virgo can’t compete with the incredible achievements of Pluto in Leo, and Pluto in Leo doesn’t understand that people in other generations are fundamentally unlike them.

Pluto in Virgo is all about analysis — brilliance — deep understanding. It’s a fundamentally quiet (and misunderstood) generation, it seems, but we are there. It doesn’t completely cover Generation X, but it overlaps and I use the terms interchangeably.

I tend to appreciate the younger generations, as Pluto in Libra and Pluto in Scorpio are not only of age, but well into adulthood and making their mark

Weirdly, Pluto is in fall in Leo. But it’s a powerful placement nonetheless.

I’ll leave it there for now and post the paper, and as you read it do know that it may be entirely moot.


David McWade

AGY 121, Final Paper

My confidence in doing an effective compatibility reading is not very strong; as a result, I wanted to focus on compatibility between myself and someone else that I was interested in getting to know better; focusing on two famous people would not be motivating enough to do very well but since I’m very interested in getting into a relationship (in fact it’s been over 14 years since I’ve been in one), I’d be committed to do a relationship report since I’d be very motivated to find the one most compatible.

There are several women that I am interested in getting to know.  Of those whose birth charts I know, I did a cursory look at our compatibility and have concluded that the one most likely to work out is the one I’m going to use – let’s call her Nicole.

I’ll post her chart here, next to mine:

Birth charts of the two indivduals.

I’m going to skip over individual needs for now as I’m not fully certain what mine or hers are.  I don’t know her well enough yet, and I’m not totally clear on my own:  this whole process is meant, in part, as a way to discover at least my own needs.  

As for our strongest zodiac signs, I have a very strong Libra (4 points), Scorpio (6 points), Sagittarius (8 points), and Capricorn (7 points).  She has strong Gemini (8 points), Cancer (7 points), and Sagittarius (6 points).  Notably, her Sun is in opposite sign to my Sun, her Moon is in opposite sign to my Moon, and her Saturn is in opposite house to my Saturn, at least in the birth chart.  Gemini has all to do with curiosity and discovery, Cancer has to do with intimacy, closeness and protection.  Sagittarius has to do with adventure and exploration.  Capricorn, along with the other things we’ve learned, indicates the ability to understand the the options available, put them in perspective, weigh the pros and cons and see what the likely results will be.  (That is what I’m doing here, actually).  It also can indicate feeling removed from fully participating in life, the ‘glass wall’ that certainly I enjoy breaking through when I can.

The Gemini-Sagittarius seems to be a bit more compatible than then Cancer-Capricorn.  That being said, I may not be a typical Capricorn in that I’m not averse to a protective type of relationship, particularly given my own likely financial issues down the road.  My lack of experience is a real handicap here.

Here’s Nicole’s 9th harmonic chart:

9th harmonic chart comparison

She has an unusually strong 9th harmonic, involving Chiron/Moon conjunction aspecting Venus/Uranus conjunction as well as Saturn/Neptune conjunction.  Her 9th harmonic is quite a bit stronger than my own.  (We actually know each other because we are both involved at the same radio show. Her show has been after mine on some occasions. The station affirms community involvement, that is, the community that is that station, and perhaps she’s more involved in aspects of the radio station than I am?)

I was looking at our “Cosmo Compatibility” report underneath the Synastry tab in Sirius 3.0 but I wasn’t sure whether to use it because I based it on the 9th harmonic chart and I don’t know if the Cosmo Compatibility  is only meant to be used for comparisons of the natal chart.  I would like to understand this better, for my sake.

Here’s a bi-wheel of our 9th harmonic charts:

Biwheel of 9th harmonic charts.

Here are the strongest things I see:

Her Sun conjunct my Mercury

Her Jupiter opposite my Moon

Her Saturn opposite my Mercury

My Sun square her Mars/Pluto conjunction, although the Mars part of it is weak, it’s close to being a spreading pattern

Her Sun trine my Sun, moderate in strength

Her Moon opposite my Pluto

Her Moon square my Venus

Her Mercury conjunct my Venus

Her Venus trine my Pluto 

Her Mars conjunct my Uranus

I would like to hear your opinion about the potential strength of this relationship relative to two random people getting together, but it seems like a very strong one.  I’m honestly confused about what this would mean and don’t want to rely on the interpretation the software provides (at least for this paper) to try to determine what it means.  I would think that the Sun trine Sun is very significant, if it’s about our shared basic essence and reality.  I would think that the Venus trine Pluto is very significant, if it’s about some kind of compulsion or very deep influence in love.  The Sun conjunct Mercury, because it is a conjunct, seems especially influential, and it would have to do with communication, or mental compatibility on an essential level?  The Mercury/Venus has to do with aesthetics?  Would the Mercury/Saturn opposition be problematic?

The next thing to do is the composite chart.  Here it is:

Composite chart (natal chart).

Even my own limited experience with Vibrational Astrology doesn’t stop me from saying that this is an extremely remarkable composite.  But how, precisely?

There are six planets involved in a spreading opposition pattern from two conjunctions of three planets in which there are six strong connections and two weak connections out of a total of nine possible (the one that isn’t there is what makes it spreading).  The two conjunctions are Venus-Pluto-Uranus and Mercury-Chiron-Sun.  The strong oppositions are Uranus-Chiron, Uranus-Mercury, Pluto-Sun, PlutoChiron, Pluto-Mercury, and Venus-Sun.

Defining based only on the conjunctions Venus-Uranus-Pluto, per your text file HARASP01, “Your romantic and sexual energy is very strong. At times a relationship may survive based on sexual attraction, while mutual understanding, kindness, and love are not as easy to find. If this happens, it is best to not make long-term commitments until a more complete and satisfying relationship is clearly possible.”

Well, wow.

The other conjunction, Sun-Mercury-Chiron, can’t be used as HARASP01 doesn’t have Chiron.  But traditional astrology says it’s one’s “inner wound,” but VA has it as “quiet charisma” and “focused selfexpression.”  Chiron fits with both of us since we do radio shows where we’re broadcasting.  Our radio personas are definitely different from each other, but at least they’re personas.   

Would we then be going back to our first original course to determine what each of the two or three planet combinations mean?  I would think the answer would be yes.  And how would we identify the oppositions?  Are they nefarious, difficult aspects?  I don’t know the answer to that question, but of course we can see what happens when we go up an octave:

2nd Harmonic chart.

As expected, this is a spreading conjunct pattern encompassing exactly 19 degrees.  Perhaps the best way to define this is the Pluto-Sun-Venus conjunction spreads 6 degrees, and the Uranus-MercuryChiron spreads about 7½ degrees.  I’m not sure what to conclude being that this is a 2nd harmonic chart.  Does this mean that the definitions of these 3-planetary combinations are meant to be ‘with each other,’ given that a multiple of 2 indicates mutuality?  But this is already a composite chart, so I don’t know what a 2nd harmonic is supposed to be.

Sun-Venus-Pluto, per your HARASP01: “It is almost certain that you will fall madly in love at least once, and become obsessed with the other person. Your feelings run very deep and you pursue things with compulsive and obsessive attention. You may become fanatically involved in art or a humanitarian mission.”

Mercury-Uranus has to do with quick responses and the ability to come up with suggestions, insight, etc.  Does that mean that we’d have that going for us in a potential relationship?  With it being performed through focused self-expression?

Regardless, I am starting to conclude that this is an extremely remarkable compatibility of some sort, given the information I’ve seen thus far.  Let’s look at the 9th harmonic:

9th harmonic composite chart.

Other than a Sun-Neptune conjunction that’s almost exact squaring the Moon (also almost exact), there isn’t a lot here.  I’m not sure how to define this in the 9th harmonic (also since a square is 36th harmonic), but Sun-Moon-Neptune indicates:  “You enjoy an atmosphere or mood that is enchanting or unusual. It is likely that music is very important to you because it transports you to a world of imagination, dreamy moods, sentimentality, or possibly even mystical feelings. You have a colorful imagination, although it may be difficult for you to express the subtlety of feelings and impressions that you experience.”

Well, that makes perfect sense.  In a community context, also, that being the radio station.

I’m not sure how to easily and quickly look for compatibility in harmonics, through a biwheel, which is the next step.  It would be time-consuming and arduous looking through every harmonic for each of us and then creating a biwheel.  However, just to show I know what some of the process is, one example is the 5th harmonic.  There, I have a Venus-Saturn-Pluto conjunction spanning a total of 10 degrees.  Whereas, Nicole has a grand trine involving Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto.  

5th harmonic chart.

Then we would create a biwheel and look for aspects, using the Sirius software to ferret out the actual aspects.  (Sirius does have its own interpretation, and I am not sure how much to rely on it, but it comes with its findings of the aspects.)  I’ll refrain from doing the biwheel as I’ve demonstrated the process with the 9th harmonic.

The biwheel would then be done with other harmonics that might be strong in both of our charts.  I looked up Nicole’s Profile Scores, and she has very strong 45th, 35th, and 41st.  Of the first 16th harmonics, her strongest are 5th and 7th, but they’re not super-strong.  So my 35th is also very strong, and it has to do with high culture and I’ll have to find the more comprehensive interpretations somewhere in the notes.

Additionally, I do understand the concept of mixed midpoints, but that doesn’t mean I know how to generate or interpret them.  Honestly, though, I’ve see enough even as soon as we looked at the 1st harmonic natal composite back on page 4 of this paper.  This is a very unique, remarkable connection and is worth pursuing.  I will now endeavor to get to know her better and if we reach that point, ask to have the charts addressed in class.  I would love to hear your opinion of what I’ve gotten here so far.


Repost: The North Node

This is being posted from the March 31, 2020 post on the North Node, with one edit.


The North Node, like any planet, is in some sign on the date of your birth and in some house at the time of your birth.

But what is the North Node? Basically, it works like this.

The Moon revolves around the Earth in a plane. The Earth revolves around the Sun in a plane. The Moon’s orbit is slightly tilted relative to the Earth’s orbit — about 5 degrees.

A typical tilt of the Moon’s orbit

If it wasn’t, we’d have a solar eclipse every month and a lunar eclipse every month. It ends up that we usually have at least a partial solar eclipse once per year and a lunar eclipse once per year.

The points where the Moon’s orbit intersects with the Earth’s orbit are called the Nodes. There is a North Node and a South Node, and they are always opposite each other in the zodiac. If your South Node is 15 degrees Scorpio, then your North Node will be 15 degrees Taurus.

The Nodes move backwards through the zodiac taking roughly 19 years to go full circle. What you might not know is that the speed of the Node procession is not uniform or constant. A few times a month (usually) it moves forward through the zodiac, though the overall trend is backwards. That’s why we use the terms “true node” and “mean node” — the latter operates on the assumption that the speed is constant, when it actually is not. But it will usually spend about a year and a half in each sign, before moving backwards to the last one.

What we know about the nodes is that our South Node is what we already came into this lifetime with. These are things we’ve learned in past lives and that we’re already good at. We use these in our current life, too; but we’re not amply rewarded for it.

The North Node is what we came into this lifetime to do. It is karmic in that sense. We learn these new things (that don’t come naturally) and not only are we fulfilling our karma, it is also how we get recognized and rewarded. There are many interpretations of how the North Node is defined in each house, and they’re not hard to find. (If you’re at least an intermediate astrologer, you may kind of know them already).

But the North Node is also in a specific house when we’re born. And if you believe A.T. Mann and other astrologers, that house is equivalent to the sign that it corresponds with. So if you have North Node in the 7th house, that’s like having North Node in Libra.

And if we move thirty degrees across the earth, or sixty, or ninety, that Node is likely to move one, or two, or three houses.

I really appreciate Jan Spiller’s Astrology for the Soul, which gives roughly forty pages for the North Node for each sign or house. And she also accepts the idea that the sign is equivalent to each house. My North Node is in Pisces, but by birth it’s in the fourth house. Where I relocated, though, it’s in the fifth house.

This is where it gets confusing. We’ve got Pisces nailed down, but which interpretation should I read — node in Cancer/4th house chapter, or node in Leo/5th house chapter? It kind of begs the question because we’re asked to fulfill a karmic requirement, and what that book says for 4th house is very different for what it says for 5th house. Do we just declare that our karmic requirements are almost arbitary and we choose what they are based on where we happen to live? Or do I just stick with Pisces/12th and then ignore the house part?

If Astrology schools offered PhDs (and they should), this would be a great topic for a dissertation to be done about where the truth lies as to what is a valid interpretation and why. Okay, maybe a masters’ thesis will suffice, but it’s very easy to see how this could be handled both scientifically AND intutively.

In future posts I’ll be discussing in my case, the North Node in Pisces/12th, Cancer/4th, and Leo/5th. Which one is more relevant to my life, and how I might change it. I’ll draw on my own experiences. You probably don’t have North Node in 4th or 5th house, although you might — the odds are 1 in 6. But you can draw on this analysis to experience it yourself when you read Jan Spiller’s book — assuming you moved, and even if you didn’t. Like I said, it’s a great book.


What are ‘General Astrological’ services?

In my consultations shop I offer four products, as follows:

  • A Time Passages Interpretive Report
  • General astrological services
  • Basic Astro Maps only
  • Full Relocation Consultation/Report

So far most people who have made their way to my store have picked the full relocation consultation/report. It may be smart of you if you decide to do so; for the amount of time I put in, you get your best value from it.

This post is meant to define what I mean by ‘general astrological services’. It has to do with the things that are part of my knowledge that are not relocation related. This includes what I know about:

  • Personology and how it affects you. This includes the Secret Language of Relationships, the Secret Language of Birthdays, and the Secret Language of Destiny, the large book Personology (which is mostly a kind of ephemeris, but defines every planet using the 48 periods) and the smaller books the Secret Language of Luck and Everyday Astrology.
  • My knowledge of the Ascendant, starting with Jeanne Avery’s book.
  • My knowledge of what’s in the Idiot’s Guide to Astrology, which is really a thing, a thing that is two decades old, and really the best introductory source to handle, in overview style, every element of astrology.
  • What I know from the Round Art, including all the interpretations AND what I know about how it measures time. A.T. Mann, even though I disagree with his moral sense (or lack thereof), is a brilliant author.
  • What I can find out for you in the myriad number of Birthday books out there. (Birthdays, Stars and Numbers as well as the Ultimate Birthday books are good ones).
  • Jan Spiller’s Astrology for the Soul and books about the North Node in general.

Personology, basically all the late Gary Goldscnneider’s books, is a particular thing for me as I think that dividing the zodiac into 48 periods as every book except for Birthdays and Everyday Astrology is an incredible model. And, Everyday Astrology is great for discovering about every aspect of a potential relationship with each sign. I covered this in an earlier post, but I’ll say here that in that book he has the three positives-three negatives in every category for every style, along with a third category — interactive style.

If you’re noticing a trend here, it’s that I’m referencing things that I didn’t come up with on my own. Why, then, is this product worth it?

I was encouraged by Linda Berry when starting the Vibrational Astrology course that I graduated from last year, to become a “spiritual intuitive.” (She got there mostly by looking at my 84th, 224th, 336th, 448th, and 672nd harmonics, for what it’s worth to you. As I used to say early on in the program, these frequencies were ‘lit up’.)

I try to discover the client as a spiritual intuitive, and I can also say that I use my powers of discrimination when I try to discover something about the client. (The ability to discriminate is the purview of someone with a North Node in the Pisces II period — covering roughly 11 deg 15 minutes Pisces to 18 deg 45 minutes Pisces).

Also, I have natal Scorpio rising. Yes, it relocated to Libra five years ago, but up until that point it was my natural inclination to gather a bunch of seemingly disparate information (including about astrology) that ended up into an unexpected yet coherent jigsaw puzzle. I don’t do that quite as much anymore, but I was learning about astrology for over eighteen years before I moved, so there’s a lot of different forms of content.

Now, I do a bit of those General Astrological Services in the 1 1/2 hour consultation, if time permits. Usually, though, there isn’t a whole lot of time to cover it, which is why I offer it as a separate product.

You got to the Consultations page through, so I’m sure since relocation astrology is trending, you weren’t really interested in general astrological services. I have enough to say about how a relocation astrology chart is supposed to be done, and I still instill my powers of discrimination and spiritual sense to find better locations for you.

Just know that general astrological services is there, and most people don’t have the time to do the work to find out these things on their own, and might not put it together quite as well.


A case study: Nora

Nora presented to me back in February. Sometimes when I do relocation consultations, the data is ambiguous — there are good and bad things in each location, and the choice is not an obvious one. I’ll be presenting such a case here or in my e-book at some point. With this case, however, it was pretty obvious what the course of action should be.

Nora’s a registered nurse and on February 13 paid for the full consultation saying she needed to have it by March 1. That was plenty of time to get it done, I said so, and then I started work on it. It wasn’t clear to me where she was living at that point, but she was from Chicago, IL. The locations she wanted me to evaluate were Wilmington, NC and Dallas, TX.

I had done a lot of the report, although not the Treasure Maps part of the analysis, and then, what happened? Nora disapppeared. I tried reaching out to her about five days after I had offered some times to schedule to determine if she wanted to schedule — that was on February 22. I still heard nothing, until March 2.

She apologized for her lack of response. She was in a crisis herself — being stalked by an ex-boyfriend and couldn’t find her daughters. She knew instinctively that there was something wrong with where she was, as she put it:

“please I gotta find out what’s up…every thing has been working against me…”

It was a client that I had to establish boundaries with, and it wasn’t until a day or two before our consultation that I figured out why she was in crisis.

Before that, I looked at all of the verbal information. The Dallas location was a bit more favorable in the midpoints area, but not excessively so. She would be dealing with a Scorpio ascendant in Wilmington, NC, but would have a Libra rising everywhere else, including where she was now, Chicago. That was good to know as I usually try to get as much Scorpio/8th house influence out of their chart if possible, and especially if the client’s life is unstable.

She would have a Cancer midheaven in Dallas, and a Leo midheaven everywhere else. Both have their good points, and I don’t really favor either. She did have Venus in 2nd house (in rulership) everywhere except Dallas, where it was in the 3rd. (3rd house Venus is a good place for Venus to be, in my estimation, even though it’s not in rulership.)

She had Mars in 1st house (rulership) everywhere except Dallas, where it was in 2nd house (detriment). These were all things I would explain to her during the session.

She had Jupiter in 7th house in Wilmington and in 8th house everywhere else. There’s a big difference between these two houses for any planet, including Jupiter, and it was something I would caution her to be aware of.

Every aspect from every participating planet to the ascendant and midheaven in Dallas was a positive one (sextile, quintile, or trine). But in Wilmington she was right on her Uranus rising line, and the interpretation was as follows:

exciting and quickly-changing environment, an exciting but unstable life, going one’s own way, individualism, science and technology, unusual objectives; rebellious, tense, anarchistic, original

This was a red flag for that location. Additionally, she had her Uranus square her Midheaven, not uncommon when Uranus is conjunct your Ascendant, and we got this:

many changes of profession, precipitancy, big upsets, sudden turns for the worse, checquered career; unreliable, temperamental, hasty, stubborn.

So it was starting to become clear that based on what she was talking about, Wilmington was not a good fit for the reasons having to do with Uranus and where her life was now. This was a big deal.

It was what I found with the Treasure Maps that was the kicker. Starting with the Friendship & Family map:

Nothing really remarkable here in terms of the locations Nora is interested in.

Lines on a Friendship & Family map will always involve Venus or the Moon. They are nice places to live in from a personal perspective — with Venus giving beauty, and the Moon giving a sense of history, nostalgia, comfort. The lines and shaded areas usually take up less than half of the map, and it’s not remarkable if you’re not living in one (though preferable if you are).

Moving along to the Friendship & Family detailed map:

The Friendship & Family, detailed map almost always has shading from the vast majority of the map.

As soon as I showed her the Friendship & Family, detailed map, I could explain to her that if you’re in a shaded in area, your life will go smoothly from a business perspective. You will get the support that you need. And notice what’s left out?


Once I told her that she could mentally compare this location with locations she’s been in, in the past, and really ponder the difference between getting what you need, and not getting what you need.

I always go after that to Excitement & Instability, and it was as follows:

Excitement & Instability lines tend to take up aout half of the map, or slightly less.

Chicago took a hit here, as well. The shaded areas also came near Wilmington, as well, but Chicago was right in the middle of a Uranus/Pluto midpoint conjunct the Ascendant. We can see that there wasn’t much going for Chicago. She could see this, too. But until it was spelled out for her through these visuals, she couldn’t put her finger on what was wrong.

I skipped the Love & Romance map, since that wasn’t what she needed right now. I went to the Vocation & Career map:

You can see the Vocation & Career map, which might usually be half-shaded. Dallas is the only city of interest to her that’s shaded in.

Noticing that Vocation & Career was shaded in for Dallas and no other location of interest for her, I suggested to her that her career as a nurse could be like an anchor — bad stuff is a lot less likely to happen if your career is stabilized and moving forward.

The final thing I brought to her attention was the fact that, except in Wilmington, her Chiron was in the 7th house. There’s a nice description from Parker’s Astrology that encapsulates the challenges:

This placing indicates a tendency to merge with a partner and lose one’s individuality.  The Chironic energy encourages the individual to become committed prematurely.  Many unrewarding and heart-breaking relationships are formed and ended.  The lessons are obvious – to learn from past experiences.  That seems simple, but it is extremely difficult, especially if the individual sees the partner merely as an extension of him- or her-self.  This represents an extreme form of selfishness, since the individual is aiming to prevent the partner from being an individual in his or her own right.  Melanie Reinhart says that this group will tend to attract ‘lame ducks’ – people who are less self-reliant than most and over whom the partner can exert power more easily.

It was very important that I made her aware that this theme is still a theme that she may be struggling with as she likely has been. Making her fully aware of the problem was, I would guess, half the battle (hopefully). If you’re doing a consultation with a client and almost everything about a location is good, do not ignore any of the challenges if they are real ones. I could get a sense of her 7th house Chiron based on her manner with me, which made discussing it a lot easier to do, since I could see it so clearly.

She was well into her 40s, too, which means that she’s more likely to integrate challenges because she’s mature and capable enough to own them. One of my recent clients was 31, and if she’d had the same challenges as Nora, she probably would not have been able to integrate them. I do hope to God Nora does — she’s deserving of having them put behind her.


I will likely be picking up and moving to Hawaii in two months

Yes, that is right. It’s been on my radar for about four months now. Given that time is of the essence for something like this (most people would wonder why that is) I gave myself a deadline of December 31, that I would make a decision as to whether or not to go. December 31 came and went and I didn’t make a decision. Then, sometime around the beginning of February something clicked with me and I said, I’m pretty sure I’m going.

I’m a bit surprised I didn’t relay this sooner. I guess it’s that push-and-pull between transparency and secrecy, which usually lands on, when is the prudent time to reveal what you’re doing? I wouldn’t just shout it to the heavens as soon as I decided, because, what if I changed my mind? I decided to sit with my decision for more than a month before writing today.

I’m a bit regretful I didn’t decide on this sooner. My last visit to Hawaii was around Memorial Day 2019. My psychedelic trip was in October of that year. Financially, it would have been better for me had I done this sometime in early 2020, even with COVID raging. I would have had a lot more time to get settled in. There is something about running low on money that focuses you, though.

Of course, I do think working on my astrology practice — well, maybe I should have stayed in Denver until now. I’ve been blogging for a year now, and it’s been enough time to get enough clients that I can say, ‘you have a career now.’ Maybe that wouldn’t have happened in Hawaii. I chalk that up to a number of things — the obvious one is having Jupiter in my 1st house but that’s not the only thing. More on that later.

Yes, I am doing this entirely because of relocation astrology. There are things that both do and do not have to do with relocation astrology that I will probably miss when I leave. On the ‘do not’ side of things — I will miss the lack of humidity here. Hawaii is beautiful for a longer portion of the year than Denver is, but it is also a humid place, especially in the late summer and early fall, but it’s pretty consistent throughout the year. I’ll miss being acclimated to a high altitude — 5450 feet above sea level. It’s not very likely, although it’s not impossible, that I’ll be at such a high altitude in Hawaii.

(Actually, there’s a pretty funny story about being on Mt. Haleakala (on Maui) in 2015 that I don’t have time to get into here, but at the time I was living in Pittsburgh at 1000 feet above sea level. It’s a telling story.)

The rest of this article is where I actually go through the relocation astrology and go through the cost-benefit analysis of my decision, what I’m gaining, what I’m giving up. Actually, I want to really make clear to you what my thought process was as I weighed this. I’m not going to go out of my way to ‘prove’ anything I’m asserting here, though I still follow the 80% rule — 80 percent of it ends up panning out, on average.

One of the things I got to get rid of when I moved to Denver was my birth ascendant, Scorpio. Libra rising has been a lot more stable for me — I never enjoyed the paranoia and the self-destructive tendencies, even as Scorpio rising is a powerful placement. (In general, I tend to personally encourage clients to reduce the amount of Scorpio/8th house influence in their charts most of the time).

The problem with Libra rising is that it can contain a “work aversion.” Now, there are many people who have Libra rising who have stable careers and do well, but this is something I’m definitely noticing. My experience of my 2019 trip was brief, but I was noticing that coming to an end. More on that in a bit. My ascendant relocates to Virgo in Hawaii.

A lot of what convinced me had to do with my work ethic in general. My moon relocated from my 2nd house to my 3rd house in Denver. 3rd house Moon is a great thing for, as Mapping Your Travels & Relocation put it, “care and feeding of your mind.” And, boy, did it! Looking at the Time Passages interpretation for third house moon gives me this:

“Your mind is ever alert for new information. Your moods are linked with your mental process. You may feel anxiety caused by your habit of constantly questioning the ideas and concepts of the world around you. Each answer you find can be the source of another question for your mind to ponder.”

But then it says that I dislike routine.

It’s not the only source that says that. Isabel Hickey refers to that in her book “Astrology: A Cosmic Science” says very bluntly that 3rd house Moon does not like routine of any kind.

Many people can make lack of routine work in their lives. Many other people try to hold down day jobs, which are usually 9-5, while they work on their practice. If I’m hinting anything here it’s that I concluded very early on that I was not going to be able to handle routine and that a normal office job was not going to work (the socialization process also played a role, which I’ll get to). The whole process of forcing myself up on my elliptical every morning was something that I could do in Pittsburgh, but it wasn’t easy then either). I came to the conclusion that the situation was not sustainable.

That should have helped me get the message. When my dental hygenist, who I’m friends with, hinted more than a year ago that I might want to pick up and start over in the place of my choosing (she accepted my astrological reasons for Hawaii, which I hadn’t even fully developed yet), I should have gotten the message right then and there. Stubbornly, I kept trying to make it work here.

A few more things came from midpoints that pertain to the work ethic in Denver, I’m listing them as follows:

  • Jupiter = Saturn/Ascendant (90, 0.9) – The tendency to “bury the head in the sand”, ignoring problems.
  • Neptune = Moon/Midheaven (45, 0.6) – Difficulty in keeping in touch with the rat race.  Tendency to worry extensively over work/career.
  • Pluto = Neptune/Ascendant (45, 0.9) – The influence will tend to cramp the go-ahead qualities of the Ascending sign.
  • North Node = Saturn/Midheaven (90, 1.2) – A difficult person who is often uncooperative at work.
  • Midheaven = Saturn/Ascendant (0, 0.7) – One who will take the career and aspirations very seriously and be coldly ambitious, or who will crumble under the burdens in life.
  • Midheaven = Neptune/Pluto (90, 0.8) – The inability to hold down a progressive career.  The constant need for change.
  • Midheaven = Mercury/Mars (180, 1.3) – Frequent dissatisfaction with career.  Will keep changing direction in life.

I’m only showing one side of the story here — there are a number of positive things pertaining to the work ethic here in Denver, including some very good ones, but on balance, it’s fairly negative.

Here’s some things — midpoints — in Hawaii. This pertains to Honolulu in particular. Kauai is more than a degree to the west of Honolulu, Maui and Kona on the Big Island is about a degree east, and Hilo is about two degrees east. So a small percentage of these midpoints will not apply to every town in every island, but most of them will.

  • Sun = Pluto/Ascendant (90, 0.4) – This influence will add compulsiveness and dogged persistence to the characteristics of the Ascending sign.
  • Sun = Mercury/Ascendant (45, 1.6) – A lively, chatty person who is optimistic and may be inconsistent in outlook and opinion.
  • Sun = Mercury/Midheaven (90, 1.6) – The ability to enjoy every working day and to spread happiness among colleagues.
  • Moon = Jupiter/Midheaven (135, 1.5) – Indicative of success.  Often fame.  A caring person.
  • Jupiter = North Node/Ascendant (135, 1.7) – An individual who is a terrific inspiration to others.  The ideal priest or professor.
  • Jupiter = Sun/Ascendant (0, 0.7) – A jovial person.  The ability to cheer up those who are unhappy.  One who enjoys life.
  • Jupiter = Sun/Midheaven (135, 0.7) – An optimist.  Successful progress in the career.  Involvement in publishing, the law or religion.
  • Ascendant = Venus/Midheaven (0, 0.5) – The individual would do well to form a working relationship with the loved one.  Joint objectives and ambitions will be achieved.
  • Midheaven = Sun/Mars (135, 1.2) – A hard, persistent worker.  Pioneering spirit.  Pleasure from effort.
  • Midheaven = Neptune/North Node (135, 0.6) – The need to develop more self-sufficiency.
  • Midheaven = Venus/Ascendant (135, 0.6) – There is psychological integration between the objectives in life and the individual’s personality.
  • Midheaven = Sun/Neptune (180, 0.3) – Changes of direction in career, which must be carefully considered, otherwise the subject will simply drift.

I included some of the challenging midpoints although not all of them; I included some other midpoints that didn’t appear to be directly related to work, but that I thought were important. I didn’t include everything. I will say that the balance was positive.

Astrology is a game of details. There is usually no overarching theme — although this set of Hawaii midpoints almost seems to suggest one, I’m not here to assert that. (One client recently just asked me point blank, “Should I live here?” as opposed to any other location. I rarely give a resolute opinion unless what I find is unambiguous and non-ambivalent. Even if the choice is an obvious one it is usually from a lot of very positive details that don’t have a lot to do with each other).

So that seems like an almost damning indictment of Denver — one which I knew about going in but didn’t know from the inside until after I got here. What was it that brought me to Denver as such an attractive option in the first place?

Two things stand out to begin with. Jupiter in the 1st house and North Node in the 5th house. Here’s the Mapping Your Travels interpretation of Denver, which is what I started with on my first visit:

If more optimism, self-confidence, or vitality is your quest, you could fulfill your desire with Jupiter in the relocated first house. You may become more interested in a religion, philosophy, belief system, or set of ideals, and expand yourself personally and physically (weight gain is possible). More faith and a willingness to risk for greater gain also are possible.

Yes. All of that. Except for the weight gain; I actually lost a bit — not enough, I’d still like to get 15 lbs. off — but some. The higher altitudes tend to burn more calories. I’ll be leaving the rest of it behind if I leave, but five years of personal growth is not something that just goes away.

Not long after my 2015 visit, I looked at the Round Art interpretation of Jupiter:

frankness, honesty, leadership, travel; generous, optimistic, self-sufficient, speculative, aspiring, capable, ambitious, noble, adventurous.

Noble? Capable? Self-sufficient? More or less, yes. That stuck right out at me when I read that sometime in the late summer of 2015.

I learned recently that capability, alone, isn’t necessarily enough to pay the bills.

This brings me to a stark question that I of course don’t have the answer to. Will I be successful in my practice after leaving this all behind? Will I be a capable astrologer? I have thought a LOT about this question. Pluto also plays a role here, as it’s sextile my relocated Midheaven here, and Mapping Your Travels has it as follows:

Organizational abilities, perseverance, concentration, self-control, and endurance are likely to contribute to your vocational success in this locale. Research abilities may be enhanced, and your dedication and thoroughness could impress authority figures. Loyalty is apt to be a major issue, and you are capable of making a strong commitment. On the downside, power struggles are possible with bosses, family members, and just about anyone. A spouse or mate may contribute to your success in the material world, and your ability to read nonverbal cues and look beneath the surface of life will help you in making pragmatic business decisions. You may find it easier to do fundraising, get loans, or use money to make money (investments). Business partnerships are possible. Counseling and consulting talents are probable.

I suspect that if I had a lot more time (i.e. money) to work with, this that’s above would be the biggest reason I would have to stay here — and, if circumstances allow, the biggest reason I would come back here. It’s a big deal. I don’t want to be unduly pessimistic about my abilities once I leave here, in this kind of realm.

I forgot to mention the North Node in 5th house which applies to Denver. Here, I’m going to go with the Time Passages interpretation:

This placement gives a personality with a focus on being recognized and admired for the personal creativity that you manifest. You are fortunate in this lifetime, for few people have the capacity, as you do, of actually making your dreams come true. You are engaged in a life-long process of concretizing your thought images, turning the products of your extraordinarily clever intellect into actual manifestation in the world. In the past, or in past lifetimes, you specialized in ideals and imaginings, without giving much thought to working these out in the real world. But as you get on with your life’s journey you find that actually manifesting these thought forms becomes more and more your focus. When you are on your true path, you find that you must act and create, for in acting you give form to the otherwise formless and ideal, and in so doing fulfill your destiny.

I woke up this morning depressed that I would be leaving this behind. And yes, what is said above is very, very real — it has been borne out. That depression, I will say, made it harder for me to get started — it was over 3 1/2 hours before I could get on the elliptical today. But contrast what I have here with the midpoints that you read about earlier in this piece.

If circumstances bring me back to Denver or anywhere my North Node is in the 5th house, this will be the biggest reason.

I do put out these posts on my FB page asking my astrologer friends for their opinions. e.g. “Would you rather have Venus in the 3rd house or the 4th house?” “Would you rather have Jupiter in the 1st house or the 2nd house?” “Would you rather have Neptune in the 2nd house or the 3rd house?”

Those three questions garnered opinions on both sides of the argument. The Venus in the 3rd house/4th house question is an important one for me, as my Venus IC line goes right in between Oahu and Kauai. Venus IC line — well, one’s life should be easier there. Because of at least one midpoint that only affects Kauai, that’s probably the island I’d most avoid, despite it (I’m told) having the gentlest energy. So my Venus defaults to the 3rd house for the rest of the islands (it’s in the 2nd house here).

Venus in the 2nd house in Colorado is counterbalanced (negatively, some would say) by Neptune in the 2nd house. I’d be moving both to the 3rd house. 3rd house is not a bad place for either Venus or Neptune, although Venus is in rulership in the 2nd house.

Jupiter in the 2nd house can bring material wealth. It would not necessarily bring recognition like Jupiter in the 1st house would, but 2nd house is a pretty big deal for my options.

I could go on, and I’d like to discuss Saturn, too — as I specifically came to Colorado to get Saturn into my 7th house. Being that I have a weak Jupiter-Saturn opposition, in most locations they are in opposite houses and Saturn ends up in my 8th house in Hawaii. That has its own issues.

7th house Saturn, where it’s exalted, is supposed to make one more sensible about relationships. It has, but not without some caveats. Look around at the literature — this, and, especially this, are good reading for this.

Finally, Mars has been in my 4th house since I was 18. Here’s the Round Art discussing 4th house Mars:

intense emotions, temper tantrums, troubled home-life, lacks persistence, accidents; impulsive, instinctual, bold, ambitious, irritable, sensuous.

I’ve lived this basically as long as I could remember. Accident proneness is a problem with me, but honestly, so are temper tantrums, embarrassingly. (We all have our secrets, don’t we?) Moving Mars into the 6th house, brings:

business, detail work, compulsive organizing and arranging, exploitation, adaptation; scientific, orderly, irritable, nervous, astute, materialistic, tidy, critical, edgy.

That’s all important.

I could go on about other things in the chart, though I’ve included a lot. But I wanted to delineate my thought process over the decision I’m making. Much, but by no means all, of it has to do with my current work ethic, how it’s somewhat problematic here, and how I can improve it.

I read and think about all these issues every day and have for months.

It doesn’t mean I won’t come back here. And in fact, there was something my late dad, in his daring personality, always said to me. And that was that it was important to try new things.


What is Lilith?

A client I was working with last week was somewhat fixated on Lilith in her chart, and I decided to read up on it — because no astrologer knows everything and with the dozens of things I was focusing on already, things that do generally work, that are often ‘enough’ to make some firm conclusions about where are good and bad places for someone to live, I was not learning about the asteroids. And here I was, thinking Lilith was an asteroid.

Which it is, although not one of the most major asteroids in the solar system; it usually doesn’t make the Top 10 asteroids. Read about halfway down the page for that explanation. Actually, that piece also includes an explanation for what is more commonly known as Black Moon Lilith, which is more commonly used.

This client knows things that I don’t, which is usually enough motivation for me to learn something new. This article explains how Lilith is, celestially:

“Black Moon Lilith is the geometric point in the sky that marks the furthest point of the moon’s orbit around the earth.”

Much like the North Node, there is a Mean position of Black Moon Lilith (which in the case of the North Node always goes backwards, and at the same speed), and a True position (which, in the case of the North Node lurches forward several times per month though the overall effect is that it moves the same amount as the True Node). In the case of the Node we’d be more inclined to use the True Node in our calculations, though we don’t get that luxury if we’re quoting from the Secret Language of Destiny.

From what I can tell, most astrological software uses the Mean position of Lilith, but I could be wrong about that. Sirius, in all its comprehensiveness, allows us to take either Mean or True or both, and based on looking at my own chart wheel, there can be quite a difference — my True Node is at 11 degrees Cancer but my Mean Node is at 0 degrees Leo.

As for what it all means, well, now that is where we get into the deep darkness. The Vice article I linked to earlier has it as follows:

“Black Moon Lilith represents a person’s primitive impulses and behavior in their rawest form. It reveals our repressed sexuality, together with what makes us feel most vulnerable; it expresses the dark side of one’s personality, buried deep in the subconscious realms of our psyche. Knowing where Black Moon Lilith is located in a birth chart can reveal information related to the shadow self, and can also determine possible hidden sexual fantasies and secret fetishes.”

I want to get to the core of what Lilith is even though I’m not sure how powerful a celestial marker it is. Many astrologers can do their craft quite well keeping it simple and ignoring all the asteroids and things like Black Moon Lilith. They perform a useful service to their clientele. Many students of astrology who are still considered amateurs, on the other hand, can be quite interested in these things as part of their own self-discovery.

I have no specific reason to believe that Black Moon Lilith, or what house it might be in, is at all related to relocation astrology. If you read an article suggesting otherwise, bring it to my attention.

To start, my Lilith is in Cancer, and I don’t have any particular Cancer influence other than that my current Midheaven is Cancer and my Mars is currently in my 4th house. But Lilith seems like it could be a photo-negative response like Saturn (if you don’t believe Saturn is, look at the Round Art interpretation for Saturn in Leo). We can look through some interpretations to try to get a better sense of what’s going on.

Here’s Cafe Astrology’s take:
Lilith in Cancer has felt ashamed for being needy or dependent for whatever reason and feels awkward or even angry with people who display these traits without apology. Their nurturing nature was stifled in some way and they can feel very uncomfortable asking for help and/or expressing their own nurturing nature as a result. This discomfort can lead to extremes of behavior in this area and then misgivings afterward, and the cycle then continues. Working on self-acceptance is the key to empowerment. This can also apply to Lilith in the 4th house.

That seems plausible to me. This is another take from a source I wasn’t previously aware of, the Hoodwitch:
In Cancer, Lilith struggles to reconcile the feminine-as-nurturer dynamic with the all-consuming seductress energy that is her essence. It’s a weird combination, but one that works. Consider dark mother goddess Kali Ma, or Anjelica Huston, who plays modern dark matriarch Mortitica Adaams. Your potential downfall? Caring for others who don’t care for you.

However, that’s incredibly simplistic relative to THIS, from The Study of Astrology, a source I’d never seen before:
When the Black Moon Lilith is in the sign of Cancer the dark negative side of the emotions are influenced by the Moon itself.  The position of having Lilith in Cancer is among the most volatile placements of Lilith in Astrology.  In the sign of Cancer the Black Moon is intimately linked with the Moon since the sign Cancer rules the Moon. When the Black Moon and Astrological Moon tie together the emotional mind and dark thinking of Lilith will merge and become one.   There may be a very dark overtone aura in the thinking always present due to the merging of Cancer energy and the Black Moon. Dark negative thoughts can embody the emotions and always be underlying in effecting personal moods and actions one takes in the life.

Since the Moon in astrology is linked with the past Lilith in Cancer will be shaped by the memories one has come to experience.  Any kind of dark or negative experience will trigger the eruptive and dark side of Lilith when in Cancer.  Any memory that is negative and pertains to feeling rejected or shamed causes extreme dark thoughts that ruminate in the thinking.  Abandonment, abuse, neglect and feeling unloved in the past can trigger anger and negative emotions that are carried throughout life.  Cancer Lilith experiences are felt to the intense extreme and can be responsible for any number of mental illness such as depression, PTSD and extreme anxiety.  These illness can be difficult to treat and even identify because they are so deeply ingrained in the emotional thinking mind.

Lilith in Cancer will be very devious and use negative experiences and trauma to try and gain a sense of comfort and stability.  One will portray an aura of having an overly sensitive and fragile outer shell that can be used for personal advantages.  Cancer Lilith will appear weak and lust for the strength of another to care and nurture their emotions. One can be quite private about intentions to gain comfort but be very emotionally manipulative and cunning to get what is wanted underneath it all.  Crying, playing the victim and emotional blackmail can be such ways Lilith in Cancer manipulates others for their needs.

The need to go such extremes to try and secure comfort and nurturing for Cancer Lilith are oft linked to a negative childhood growing up.  Early on there was a feeling of rejection or shame associated with the family that raised them.  Most likely there is an underlying feeling of being the black sheep of the family from never fitting into the context of the early domestic family.  Sometimes there may of been abuse growing up that spurned the foundation of dark emotions to develop.  The experience with the mother in particular may of been very negative, abusive or full of emotional manipulation.  

Any of such negative past experiences becomes the underpinning for the dark emotions that Lilith in Cancer deals with throughout life.  There can be a feeling of being trapped in the past that is hard to escape. Lilith in Cancer will look to establish it’s own sense of domestic life departed from the early childhood family experience.  One will do this in order to free itself from the shame of their birth family. Cancer Lilith will wish not to partake in the tradition of the family culture and reject it.  In return one will desperately seek starting a family of it’s own to try and run from the past and find the emotional security that may of been lacking.  Even if there was no abuse growing up Lilith can have inspiration to run from their domestic family and start a family of their own.  The tendency will be to become a martyr to create one’s independence with regardless of the background one was raised in.    

This NAILS it, for me. And I’ve only posted the first five paragraphs of a 17-paragraph screed.

This gets into some pretty psychological stuff — always good for people who want to be more self-aware. Do you see how the right interpretation of Lilith in a sign can enlighten?

To illustrate further, I’m going to end this by posting the first three paragraphs of the same site’s take on Black Moon Lilith in Libra:
When the Black Moon Lilith is in the sign of Libra the dark negative side of the emotions are influenced by the masculine nature of planet Venus.  Having Lilith in Libra can make for having a hard time accepting oneself for who they are. There can be shame and rejection pertaining to how one presents themselves in terms of beauty and attractiveness.  Lilith here can feel unattractive and struggle believing they are not beautiful and worthy of admiration.  Sometimes this can stem from events like peer pressure, bullying or simply a lack of admiration for the efforts one puts worth in how they appear. Regardless of what occurs; Lilith faces rejection and shame which can make one sensitive to the point of being needy for being admired or found attractive.

When Lilith is in Libra living life without the comfort of social attention can be very difficult.  Lilith can live with fear of being alone and rejected causing a desire to go towards great lengths to secure attention. The use of seductive or charming tactics can be such ways attract the attention of someone socially. Over the course of life Libra Lilith will seek a business or marriage partner for personal gain to qualm the fear of going about life alone.  One here may marry and find them self partnering for several reasons; be it the attention it brings from a partner or the actual attention the marriage itself generates publicly.  One may also simply enter a marriage or business partnership for the money or assets for personal gain to live a more luxurious life.

Being rejected from partnership or in social settings can be truly detrimental to Libra Lilith as it can lead to to a multitude dark negative thinking patterns. Sometimes the fear of being rejected can be so great Lilith can settle for having someone just to be with them.  There may be a total neglect of being driven towards entering relationships on a basis of compatibility.  This need can lead to potentially missing out on someone they are truly compatible with and sharing a deep intimate relationship.  Sometimes Lilith may even shift their personality to accommodate someone just to keep a relationship pleasant so the partner “loves them” or accepts them.   In other instances the fear of rejection can lead Lilith to being timid in seeking relationships due to negative self esteem.  Lilith in Libra seeks partnerships just to satisfy a need to be found desirable or attractive by someone else.  The attention gained from being found attractive can be the total basis of the relationship which may result in a relationship lacking any true depth.

You can now see that this interpretation from this incredible site is a way to uncover the issues your people and the people you want to get to know are dealing with. Yes, it makes everything more complicated, but can be yet another form of education for someone like myself to disseminate, at the right time and place, during my “General Astrological Services” service that’s offered on the consultations page.

I’m going to leave it there, take a little break, and then read both Libra and Cancer again.